Lessee,
Originally posted by Tanner
...I think Pamela Anderson looks good but I don't like her....
Point well made; I'll buy that. I suppose I expected `nice work but not for me' to be in the same post. I took your follow-up for backpedaling. Mea culpa. I apologize.
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Originally posted by sbell111
Originally posted by GaryMGg
I don't get it. Perhaps I've lost my reading comprehension ability. ...
And Steve wrote this elsewhere when he first joined the IAP:
Originally posted by sbell111
... I don't consider us to be in direct competition with any of the other participants on this site emphasis added . ...
... To me, when you go to a big show and copy someone's idea for your shows you will see them again at the next big show and you will be in direct competition. ...
So, you're taking the position that you shouldn't take steps to improve your practices? You shouldn't learn from others that are doing things better?...
No, I'm taking the position that you ARE in direct competition with the other turner at a show you're both at, and I'm NOT taking a competitor's work and competing with him on it when he's present.
I would use the idea in a different venue wherein he isn't present because I don't see that as direct competition.
Originally posted by sbell111
BTW, a better place to discuss this would have been in the original thread, not off-topic in this one.
I think it's related.
Originally posted by sbell111
...Did you really [sic] go back and read all of them?
I didn't have to; I remembered that post.
I simply looked it up to be certain NOT to take it out of context.
Stuff about tutorials elided ...
Originally posted by sbell111
I don't understand where you are coming from. It appears that you are (purposely or not) mistating our posts. No one has taken the position that anyone should HAVE to write a tutorial.
Now I believe you've misread me. Perhaps I should've started with
I guess more than anything else, what's getting under my skin is the ubiquitous requests I see for tutorials wherein the poster seems to suggest it's an expectation rather than a gift someone presented
and then given the illustration about how much time is involved and that it's a present.
The tone
I read into it was more one of expectation. It may not be what you intended to communicate; it may just be what I got out of it.
Be that as it may, I'm not alone in the feeling that lots of folks ask for a tutorial everytime they see something new to them. I've had several members, new and old, communicate to me about it -- and, not in a positive manner.
It's my
opinion asking someone to write a tutorial puts them on the spot.
It's a lot of work and is something that should result from their choice only.
The request for tutorials should come from Jeff and the moderators and should be done in private or as a general reminder to all of us. In the final analysis, the decision to write one should be a voluntary act attained without any coercion.
I believe it's fine to write one on anything that isn't someone else's work -- I expect we're in agreement on what's reasonably one's own idea to share and what isn't.
For instance, someone posts a gorgeous inlay cross similar to Eagle's. That person has clearly figured out what it takes to make the inlay and cross with exacting, repeatable accuracy. If they decided to write a tut., so be it. As a woodworker I know how it's done and I've discussed it with Eagle, thus I'll never ink it.
I've probably read every tutorial posted.
I've only written one because I don't do anything terribly different than others.
In fact, I've copied or modified numerous works others have made available here.
I've edited several written by others -- that in itself is a good bit of work. I'd do it again because it's good for the members here.
I've only made one pen that's probably really unique; it's in my album and anyone can copy it if they want to go to the effort. It's not rocket science.
Originally posted by sbell111] ...
Apparently, some members (who do not wish to learn from others, apparently) believe that these requests are not a compliment, but are some kind of insult. ...
That's childish.
I may hold an unpopular opinion regarding the
requests for tutorials. I stand by my opinion. However, I'll let my post history speak for itself when it comes to sharing ideas, techniques, tools, and tips.