Your Opinion on Signatures?

[xxShadowxx]

random idea, add a button in sig area, people who are annoyed with big sigs can click button, sig gets hidden person by person, cookie saves data, if people want further control they have account settings to fully turn off

jeff, i've been in your place a couple times, and when people in such position propose things, people complain, period :biggrin: in my experience its best to take the low impact route of adding something small that most wont notice, and just toss it in :biggrin: threads lead to headaches

 

[hewunch]

Nice job, cool pen

ginger ale just came out my nose

Nice job, cool pen

ginger ale just came out my nose

That would have made Eagle laugh, both of them.

Happy to help.

 

[wolftat]

I think we should be able to do whatever we want with no restrictions or rules whatsoever. This would make the most people happy it seems. In fact, maybe we should do away with all gov'ts and police forces and just hand out guns and ammo to anyone that wants it, now that would really be fun.

This is sarcasm, just for those that think they are going to get a gun handed to them anytime soon.

This forum is evolving and we need to let it evolve or it will stagnate, I know change is difficult better than most, but it is a fact of life and fighting the changes only makes things harder. Lighten up, relax, and remember that this is a forum site, your life is not on the line.

 

[NewLondon88]

I think we should be able to do whatever we want with no restrictions or rules whatsoever. This would make the most people happy it seems. In fact, maybe we should do away with all gov'ts and police forces and just hand out guns and ammo to anyone that wants it, now that would really be fun.

Gloria Bunker-Stivic: Daddy, did you know that sixty percent of the people
murdered in this country in the last ten years were killed by guns?
Archie Bunker: Would it make you feel any better, little girl, if they was
pushed out of windows?

 

[76winger]

open note to our benevolent dictator: What do you want? You have created a fantastic hangout for this motley band of penmaking degenerates (and I am at least as motley and degenerate as any!)... but it IS your house. While I support your proven desire to make everyone happy...it ain't gonna happen. You have given us great options for choosing what we see and what we ignore, tools we can use to amplify our experience and improve our perception of this site. You have allowed us to gather as a group in your basement and play our games! THANK YOU! Maybe it's your turn to just say "this is what I want." You developed the initial rules for sig lines, people found the edges of those limits, other people got upset, most respond with a resounding "eh".... change the rules if you feel that makes your vision of the future of this site better... most of us will (maybe) notice a small change and go on with our lives, a few will be offended and take it personally, and a couple will scream...and the world will go on. I thank you for this site and the knowledge it offers and the group that regularly gathers here and will be perfectly happy with YOUR choice.

+1000
I agree (Especially the parts I placed in bold).

 

[nava1uni]

Sig?p wHat is that and where will I find one. No offense, but life is too short to worry about most of this stuff. Too big, don't read it, pass it by. I am with hewunch, cool pen, nice casting.

 

[workinforwood]

Now here we back step into the absurd. Who cares about anyone signature as long as it's not profane. Nobody says you have to look at it or click on it. Enough trying to please the minority. No one can make everyone happy in this world. Lets keep things stupid simple.

No Profanity or nudity.
No bashing on people and piling on the band wagon.
Treat people as you want to be treated.

Have some common sense. Don't put your nose in others business. You don't like people selling stuff, don't click on it. You don't like Horror movies, watch nickelodeon. Life is not complicated unless one makes it so.

 

[thebillofwrites]

Ditto what Jeff Powell just said.

 

[Haynie]

No nudity.

How dare you be so unreasonable.

 

[ed4copies]

No nudity.

How dare you be so unreasonable.

Does that include my senator's "package"??:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[witz1976]

No nudity.

How dare you be so unreasonable.

Does that include my senator's "package"??:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I don't want to know anything more about your "Senator's "package"" :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[76winger]

No nudity.

How dare you be so unreasonable.

Does that include my senator's "package"??:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I don't want to know anything more about your "Senator's "package"" :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Does it come wrapped? :laugh:

 

[greenmtnguy]

I think we need to designate forum comedians to step in and keep threads from going down the drain. I already have found a few candidates in this thread. Now to run this idea by Jeff. Be back in a minute with the verdict. This is going to be too easy. How can he say no after the past week or so. I nominate myself forum comedian delegator and moderator. Oh and as long as an opinion was asked, I can live with whatever. I actually voted in the poll.

 

[76winger]

Are you assuming the rest of us didn't?

 

[DurocShark]

I didn't read the thread, so I don't know who exactly is bothered by what flavor of sig.

I just don't understand... If the sigs bother you, disable viewing them. That's all it takes for peace and tranquility.

Jeff, I love what you've done with this site, but I'm afraid you may be oiling the squeaky wheel here, while the other ten thousand wheels are left alone.

 

[Texatdurango]

Now here we back step into the absurd. Who cares about anyone signature as long as it's not profane. Nobody says you have to look at it or click on it. Enough trying to please the minority. No one can make everyone happy in this world. Lets keep things stupid simple.

No Profanity or nudity.
No bashing on people and piling on the band wagon.
Treat people as you want to be treated.

Have some common sense. Don't put your nose in others business. You don't like people selling stuff, don't click on it. You don't like Horror movies, watch nickelodeon. Life is not complicated unless one makes it so.

In most of the "rule changing" threads I keep seeing this and similar comments over and over.... usually by the same few people, mainly those selling on the forum. Do you guys really think those asking for changes are really the minority? Do you really think Jeff is going through all this trouble to appease just a few people? I would say think again!

To the second highlited comment, it could be reversed to say..... Don't put your business in others noses, and probably just as many members would be happy! :biggrin:

 

[Texatdurango]

I didn't read the thread, so I don't know who exactly is bothered by what flavor of sig.

I just don't understand... If the sigs bother you, disable viewing them. That's all it takes for peace and tranquility.

Jeff, I love what you've done with this site, but I'm afraid you may be oiling the squeaky wheel here, while the other ten thousand wheels are left alone.

Seems to be a popular phrase from those selling things. Why should I have to disable seeing hundreds or possibly thousands of signatures because of a few dozen commercial signatures? To me, THAT sounds like trying to appease the minority!

 

[alphageek]

Everyone - please don't battle in here..

Answer the question, comment if you desire. Jeff isn't asking to "please the minority". He is asking the population for their opinion. From there he can figure out what the majority (at least among those who answer) is and if HE wants to make changes or not.

Please don't turn this into anyone attacking someone with different views. Either side of those battling could be the minority!

Dean
Asst Mod

 

[shadetree_1]

I've changed mine to that info and I'm turning off everyones in my CP.

easy enough for you...you're renting other space, gimpy! (PLEASE NOTE SARCASM!!!!)


open note to our benevolent dictator: What do you want? You have created a fantastic hangout for this motley band of penmaking degenerates (and I am at least as motley and degenerate as any!)... but it IS your house. While I support your proven desire to make everyone happy...it ain't gonna happen. You have given us great options for choosing what we see and what we ignore, tools we can use to amplify our experience and improve our perception of this site. You have allowed us to gather as a group in your basement and play our games! THANK YOU! Maybe it's your turn to just say "this is what I want." You developed the initial rules for sig lines, people found the edges of those limits, other people got upset, most respond with a resounding "eh".... change the rules if you feel that makes your vision of the future of this site better... most of us will (maybe) notice a small change and go on with our lives, a few will be offended and take it personally, and a couple will scream...and the world will go on. I thank you for this site and the knowledge it offers and the group that regularly gathers here and will be perfectly happy with YOUR choice.

I second that !!!!!!!!!

Joe

 

[Atherton Pens]

easy enough for you...you're renting other space, gimpy! (PLEASE NOTE SARCASM!!!!)


open note to our benevolent dictator: What do you want? You have created a fantastic hangout for this motley band of penmaking degenerates (and I am at least as motley and degenerate as any!)... but it IS your house. While I support your proven desire to make everyone happy...it ain't gonna happen. You have given us great options for choosing what we see and what we ignore, tools we can use to amplify our experience and improve our perception of this site. You have allowed us to gather as a group in your basement and play our games! THANK YOU! Maybe it's your turn to just say "this is what I want." You developed the initial rules for sig lines, people found the edges of those limits, other people got upset, most respond with a resounding "eh".... change the rules if you feel that makes your vision of the future of this site better... most of us will (maybe) notice a small change and go on with our lives, a few will be offended and take it personally, and a couple will scream...and the world will go on. I thank you for this site and the knowledge it offers and the group that regularly gathers here and will be perfectly happy with YOUR choice.

Jon said it best.

Jeff, thanks for a great site, do whatever you want, it's just great to have a basement to hang out and some great (degenerate? maybe a few) folks to share ideas, info and knowledge about the addiction we call penturning and a few other subjects as well.

Thanks for all you do to keep the site up and running!

 

[ed4copies]

Those who have been members of IAP long enough and consistently enough, will remember we had this discussion as it related to religion and politics in the signature lines.

The "community" clearly did not want the signatures to limit their right of free expression. Jeff agreed.

So, again, if the signatures are to be limited in content, then all sorts of content should be equallly limited. Or, the signatures completely disabled.

Which brings us back to the option--turn off the signatures if some bother you and you are incapable of overlooking them---or put each of the people with these signatures on your ignore list.

The mechanics already exist.

 

[Smitty37]

Get back to work

Those who have been members of IAP long enough and consistently enough, will remember we had this discussion as it related to religion and politics in the signature lines.

The "community" clearly did not want the signatures to limit their right of free expression. Jeff agreed.

So, again, if the signatures are to be limited in content, then all sorts of content should be equallly limited. Or, the signatures completely disabled.

Which brings us back to the option--turn off the signatures if some bother you and you are incapable of overlooking them---or put each of the people with these signatures on your ignore list.

The mechanics already exist.

Ed...Get back to work:redface: and go read your PM's and email:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[xxShadowxx]

Which brings us back to the option--turn off the signatures if some bother you and you are incapable of overlooking them---or put each of the people with these signatures on your ignore list.

The mechanics already exist.

it is my constitutional right to leave sigs on and complain as much as i wish, what the HELL is your problem?!?! this is a free country, my opinion matters!

.....oh my the only reason i didnt go on more is i couldnt stop laughing as i typed :biggrin: for those with no sense of humor, i was kidding, theres already tools to hide sigs (general and specific), use em or lose the right to complain IMO :biggrin:

 

[DurocShark]

I need to stay out of these threads... A few people get all hot and bothered over something so silly. Reminds me of the rest of the reality of this world. I come here to get AWAY from the rest of the world...

 

[Smitty37]

Not really

Which brings us back to the option--turn off the signatures if some bother you and you are incapable of overlooking them---or put each of the people with these signatures on your ignore list.

The mechanics already exist.

it is my constitutional right to leave sigs on and complain as much as i wish, what the HELL is your problem?!?! this is a free country, my opinion matters!

.....oh my the only reason i didnt go on more is i couldnt stop laughing as i typed :biggrin: for those with no sense of humor, i was kidding, theres already tools to hide sigs (general and specific), use em or lose the right to complain IMO :biggrin:

Nah...this is a private place you have not constitutional rights here:biggrin: it is also a free country for the owner:tongue:

 

[louisbry]

I think that the rules regarding signatures should remain the same since they are adequate. However, I feel like moderators should screen signatures and determine if their content should remain in the signature or be allowed only in the classified forums. I have noticed that some signatures are reading more and more like a classified ad when specific products are mentioned.

 

[bnoles]

Just for kicks I went in my user control panel and turned off both signatures and avatars to see the results. I like it a lot with so much less clutter and distraction, I find that I can focus much more on the content of the post. I believe I am going to leave it this way. I like having the control instead of someone else controlling it for me.

 

[seamus7227]

signature or not, WHO CARES....... I was gonna try and stay out of this because the whole thread sounds like a bunch of whining going on about the most petty things. RULES ARE RULES, if things are allowed to be put in your signature line, then by all means use the tools available to do so. But to all the complainers, REALLY, do you sleep better at night knowing that you continually stir the mixing pot just to **** others off. As if Jeff and the Mods dont have enough to contend with.....GEES. just my .02 worth, and not that anyone cares. Now i sound like I'm whining, so my apologies.

And yes, I voted to keep things the way they are. If you dont like my signature, then like others have said, TURN YOURS OFF!!!

 

[Smitty37]

Interesting

I think it[s interesting how many people complain about the complainers....just a tad ironic in my opinion.

 

[Padre]

Nice job, cool pen

ginger ale just came out my nose

Oohhhhh, that musta' stung.

 

[Padre]

+1!

signature or not, WHO CARES....... I was gonna try and stay out of this because the whole thread sounds like a bunch of whining going on about the most petty things. RULES ARE RULES, if things are allowed to be put in your signature line, then by all means use the tools available to do so. But to all the complainers, REALLY, do you sleep better at night knowing that you continually stir the mixing pot just to **** others off. As if Jeff and the Mods dont have enough to contend with.....GEES. just my .02 worth, and not that anyone cares. Now i sound like I'm whining, so my apologies.

And yes, I voted to keep things the way they are. If you dont like my signature, then like others have said, TURN YOURS OFF!!!

 

[Texatdurango]

signature or not, WHO CARES....... I was gonna try and stay out of this because the whole thread sounds like a bunch of whining going on about the most petty things......

And yes, I voted to keep things the way they are. If you dont like my signature, then like others have said, TURN YOURS OFF!!!

Who cares indeed, I'm guessing the ones who care the most are the ones who stand to loose the most if the ads are curtailed or calmed down, that would be my guess!

I guess if you stand a chance on loosing some revenue for the lack of advertising, the logical response would be to leave things as they are. And as far as the whining goes, it can be seen on both sides of the debate!

The more I see the comments like... "if you don't like MY ad, turn YOUR signatures off", the more I don't think it's the best or even appropriate solution.

It's like driving to work on the same road for 10 years then one day up pops a bunch of billboards cluttering up the view of the countryside and when called, the company says if you don't like seeing them.... find another way to work!

 

[OKLAHOMAN]

Gal's and Guy's there's a happy medium that could be met, do I have a horse in this race...yes...but I don't think I have to scream to get your attention, just as most of the other vendors don't. Just give good service at reasonable prices, use the Classified or Preimum Classified for what they are intended for and on your sigature list your web-site but don't make it larger and more colorful than your post.

 

[Padre]

signature or not, WHO CARES....... I was gonna try and stay out of this because the whole thread sounds like a bunch of whining going on about the most petty things......

And yes, I voted to keep things the way they are. If you dont like my signature, then like others have said, TURN YOURS OFF!!!

Who cares indeed, I'm guessing the ones who care the most are the ones who stand to loose the most if the ads are curtailed or calmed down, that would be my guess!

I guess if you stand a chance on loosing some revenue for the lack of advertising, the logical response would be to leave things as they are. And as far as the whining goes, it can be seen on both sides of the debate!

The more I see the comments like... "if you don't like MY ad, turn YOUR signatures off", the more I don't think it's the best or even appropriate solution.

It's like driving to work on the same road for 10 years then one day up pops a bunch of billboards cluttering up the view of the countryside and when called, the company says if you don't like seeing them.... find another way to work!

I would like to ask Jeff, respectfully, how long users have been allowed signatures. Ever since I have been a member there have been signatures.

I don't see how turning signatures off can not be an appropriate solution. What I hear you saying is that those who don't want signatures somehow have priority over those who do. Why? We all have the ability to view them or not. All of us. For those who want signatures, they turn it on. For those that don't they turn it off. How is that unfair, unequal or somehow impinging on your ability to read posts without signatures?

I compare this to the color of your screen. If you don't like blue, then you change it to another color. Big deal. Same with signatures.

Next are we going to go after Avatars?

 

[seamus7227]

good point Chip!

 

[alphageek]

The Poll is closed...
I'm going to close the thread too, since I've already asked once to not battle in here and thats continuing.

Note - None of the options talk about REMOVING Sigs, much less anything about avatars. No need making a mountain out of a molehill.

Lets wait and see what Jeff thinks of the data that been presented to him.