Using Pressure Pots Horizontally...

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SteveRussell

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Hello,

Just curious if anyone is using their pressure pot horizontally? Why would you want to use it this way you say? It allows longer blanks to be pressure cast when in the horizontal mode vs. vertical mode. :-) Using one of my 15-gallon pots on its side, allows blanks up to 20" long to be cast. Also, it allows larger square blanks to be cast, versus vertically. I found a few challenges along the way that may help others interested in this orientation for casting.

The first thing I found is that it is more difficult to ensure correct lid fitment when the pot is used horizontally. Gravity is working against you here and the lid for a 15-gallon pot is quite heavy! I tried numerous things and finally settled on using a small strip of HDPE of the correct thickness (measured with the pot in a vertical position with equal spacing around the lid/pot interface). To form the HDPE strip, I heated it with a hot air gun and left in the recess until cool. When removed, the HDPE kept its curved shape.

To use the spacer, the lid is loosely attached and the alignment strip is placed under the top recess of the rim. The wing nuts are then tightened in opposing order, as you would with car wheel nuts. This (along with an overall lid/pot alignment mark) keeps the lid centered every time you cast and helps to ensure a good tight seal, since the seal is being compressed in the same place every time the lid is secured.

One other thing I found when the pot is used horizontally... It's important to make sure the pot is secured and will not move when loading or securing the lid. To accomplish this, I build curved ramps that fit to the side of the pot, these are screwed into the bench top surface to prevent movement. The holes for the legs are used to secure screws into a wall plate that prevents any rotational movement of the pot. This keeps the pot rock solid and level at all times. Note: The pot was leveled prior to securing the bracing.

The last challenge I found is building a shelf for the interior to facilitate using flat/square molds. While this sounds like it would be easy, it took a wee bit of thought to get a workable design that could be easily removed if necessary, yet remain level and solid at all times. The shelf was made from laminated Lodgepole Pine that was brad nailed and glued at all contact points. Screws were also added, probably overkill but I did it anyway. The shelf is braced with one vertical support (under the horizontal shelf) and two angled supports (with ends cut at 45 degrees). This provides a very stable platform, however, the entire shelf unit could still move side to side (along the interior curve) inside the pot.

To prevent this movement, I hot-melt glued small alignment strips of wood along each side of the bottom brace. This keeps the vertical support from moving side to side and thus, keeps the flat shelf (where the casting molds sit) level. Now that this modification has been made, casting horizontally is a snap and there is no worry of an off-level casting being made. :-) Level castings every time... Cheers!

P.S. In case anyone is wondering, according to the manufacturer's representative and their senior engineer, there is no problem with using a pressure pot on it's side when casting resins in mold forms. :-) In fact, they thought it was a cool idea! Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Using the horizontal orientation requires a few fittings to re-orient the pressure and vacuum gauges and the inlet fitting if necessary.
 
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Thanks for the tips Steve, sounds great. I just got my pressure pot, had the same idea as far as horizontal, i think it would be less floor space that way, ( i have a 9' x 16' space )and i'm in the process of building a rack type shelf to hold 2 pots. I got the idea from a youtube video for casting. Do you have any pics you would like to share?
 
If you do this, I would position the lid on a wall so ifmit does fail, you don't have a large pp lid flying at you. Tie down the pot itsself real well too.
 
Hello Longbeard,

Apologies for the late reply, I have been up to my ears of late in the studio... :-)

I will take a few snaps and try to post them, but I have never been successful at getting photos uploaded, IIRC. It took eight times to get the Avatar of my Mercedes Benz S550 uploaded, even though it was way less in size than the max. I kept getting "upload failed" messages. I'm on a Mac though, so that may be a problem, I dunno...
 
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Hello Longbeard,

Apologies for the late reply, I have been up to my ears of late in the studio... :-)

I will take a few snaps and try to post them, but I have never been successful at getting photos uploaded, IIRC. It took eight times to get the Avatar of my Mercedes Benz S550 uploaded, even though it was way less in size than the max. I kept getting "upload failed" messages. I'm on a Mac though, so that may be a problem, I dunno...

slightly off topic, but I also use a mac as im pretty sure thats all they make. Only had a few fail during upload, and dont ever worry about the size, not sure if I have ever uploaded any jpegs under 500k....Just thought it may help!
 
No problem Steve
i know when my avatar had to be a certain size before i finally got it to take.
i still hav'nt got my shelf finished for my pots.
 
One of these days, Steve, I will have a free weekend and be able to join the LSWA and visit your shop.....I mean studio:biggrin:
 
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