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moke said:
I want to thank everyone that commented to help me make my decision. I apologize if I asked people to hash out something that is being discussed and was "boring" in other forums. I belong to only this forum, and had not seen this discussed here. As you may imagine I have decided to get one. I have decided on the professional with 52 inch deck, they also have an awesome wheel set, and a nice out feed table. I understand it also requres a different cartridge for dado blades. All of this, tax, and an extra cartridge in case I trigger it adds up to 3600, that is how I came up with that price.

I agree that this system is not a subsitute for common sense, but I wanted to make sure it really is as good as some of the other cabinet saws, with the safety features aside. We all use very dangerous tools beside our TS, but the TS seems to take more than on finger if there is an accident, many of the others don't seem to. I am by trade a Photographer during the day and a Policeman at night......I need my trigger finger for both!!!

Thanks again...the knowlegde offered here is never disappointing
Moke
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Glad to see you can afford it. It is surprising to me that tools like this get asked about on a pen turning site where the biggest thing we cut is a 3/4" pen blank:smile: Seriously though when investing in a tool of this nature you would do yourself a great justice by joining a true woodworking forum where tools like this are used everyday because there are furniture makers there and other true woodworkers that do flat work. http://www.sawmillcreek.org/index.php

http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=

http://community.woodmagazine.com/?_requestid=45701

These are some examples of such sites that are truely dedicated to woodworking.



Now with that all said we are happy that you are getting one and now you owe us all a photo or two of this machine set up and ready to cut that first pen blank:smile: We also would like for you to give us a complete assessment of its ease to assemble and to operate and the quality of construction. Both likes and dislikes and be honest. This way this will be on record for others to see when they use the search feature looking for replys on this saw. Seems like back in 2006 the same discussion was being bantered about. Same results. Cool. :smile: Have a great and safe day.
 
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jttheclockman said:
It is surprising to me that tools like this get asked about on a pen turning site where the biggest thing we cut is a 3/4" pen blank:smile:
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And where pray tell do those 3/4 inch pen blanks come from????? Someone had to cut them down from a bigger piece at some point (except those doing casting).

The Sawstop is a nice saw. But it doesn't come with a feature that I've gotten used to on my $300 Ryobi, so I'll likely be buying something else when it's time.

But with people winning cases against tool manufacturers for not having the technology on their saws (even though the person wasn't using the provided safety devices during the accident) We'll likely see them on all saw eventually regardless of cost increases.
 
Russianwolf said:
jttheclockman said:
It is surprising to me that tools like this get asked about on a pen turning site where the biggest thing we cut is a 3/4" pen blank:smile:
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And where pray tell do those 3/4 inch pen blanks come from????? Someone had to cut them down from a bigger piece at some point (except those doing casting).

The Sawstop is a nice saw. But it doesn't come with a feature that I've gotten used to on my $300 Ryobi, so I'll likely be buying something else when it's time.

But with people winning cases against tool manufacturers for not having the technology on their saws (even though the person wasn't using the provided safety devices during the accident) We'll likely see them on all saw eventually regardless of cost increases.
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I don't know maybe someone got the bright idea to use a bandsaw:smile::smile:

You are right about our lawsuit happy society today. No one wants to take responsibility for their own actions any more. I think I have to go get me a hot cup of coffee now. :biggrin:
 
Lumberjocks has a reviews section that is invaluable...I highly recommend it...I check it before I make any new purchases.

Grub
 
moke said:
Thanks John T. for the suggestion on websites...I will investigate those sites, do you have a favorite?
Moke
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No I do not have a favorite but as Grub said Lumberjocks has a review section but any of the others will be more than happy to discuss tools. I visit many.
 
JBCustomPens said:
Some of the newer saw stop models come with a key that can turn off the safety feature, so If you have to cut conductive material, you can do so.
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I wonder if those woodworkers who would need this safety feature the most would be most likely to leave the key turned to the 'off' position.
 
sbell111 said:
JBCustomPens said:
Some of the newer saw stop models come with a key that can turn off the safety feature, so If you have to cut conductive material, you can do so.
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I wonder if those woodworkers who would need this safety feature the most would be most likely to leave the key turned to the 'off' position.
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You can't. Every time you turn off the power the saw goes back to the original condition. In order to turn the brake off you have to turn the power off, hold the key in the "brake off position", turn the power on and hold that key for 30 seconds. Then, for the duration of that "session" the brake safety feature is off.
 
When it first came out, I had the same opinion of many, that it wasn't a total solution.

However, I'm more on the fence now. I think it's expensive, and I think the Contractor version is waay too pricey. But if I had the money, I think I'd probably buy one.

However, the thing that puts me out most about the saw is the owner and his tactics... I'm not a fan of trying to corner the market through legislation or litigation.
 
BigguyZ said:
When it first came out, I had the same opinion of many, that it wasn't a total solution.

However, I'm more on the fence now. I think it's expensive, and I think the Contractor version is waay too pricey. But if I had the money, I think I'd probably buy one.

However, the thing that puts me out most about the saw is the owner and his tactics... I'm not a fan of trying to corner the market through legislation or litigation.
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You are 1000% right. Let the product speak for itself.
 
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