Pen Disassembly

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Ok..........so I got those punches, but I do not have a clue as to how to actually disassemble a pen with them. I get the whole "shove the punches through the hole to press on the opposite side" thing. But, how do you get enough grip against the pen to push out the parts? Am I missing something painfully obvious here (probably)?
 
i just grab the blank with my hand and start pounding it on the punch sitting on top of the headstock. after a few good raps, it will start to come out, after that i regrip my hand to catch the edge of the blank in my hand. It tends to take a little bit of skin when you do it this way, but it works for me so i deal with it.. besides, it's just skin.. it grows back!
 
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