opinion..

Signed-In Members Don't See This Ad

Ambidex

Member
Joined
Nov 2, 2011
Messages
1,108
Location
Bristol NH 03222
I've had less than fun with this one..2 catches and 3 refinishes...sorry about the crappy photos..am a pen turner, not a picture taker..would love some opinions if this is worth wasting an expensive component set on or take it in the ear and order new tubes and get it right next time??? It's an Imperial and have better than 4 hrs already..need some quality input..I know joblo doesn't see what we do but I cannot sell a pen I'm not proud of..any and all input is appreciated..btw..sorry George..robuticon..some of the most gorgeous blanks ever have been abused by yours truly:wink:
 

Attachments

  • 001.jpg
    001.jpg
    120.8 KB · Views: 263
  • 003.jpg
    003.jpg
    129.4 KB · Views: 255
  • 004.jpg
    004.jpg
    129.7 KB · Views: 287
  • 005.jpg
    005.jpg
    114.3 KB · Views: 239
  • 006.jpg
    006.jpg
    117.3 KB · Views: 279
Signed-In Members Don't See This Ad
Do you normally have a hard time finishing? First one with this wood?

Are there any flaws in the wood besides the crack in the middle? I can't see any easily.

For something like an imperial, if you aren't 100% happy, don't assemble it.
 
Do you normally have a hard time finishing? First one with this wood?

Are there any flaws in the wood besides the crack in the middle? I can't see any easily.

For something like an imperial, if you aren't 100% happy, don't assemble it.

Actually the crack isn't the issue..it's the crappy fill at the base of the upper tube..can't hide because of the grain and the match-up of the upper and lower..like I said, sorry about the pics.and the finish issue was I probably went too fast and overheated the blank..ca does not like heat..and i'm slightly rushy...but at the same time Dan..I'm not happy and you're correct..but what do all the perfectionists here do with errors they know no one but us will see?? I'm a newbie at higher end components and can't picture selling anything that wouldn't make me happy..trying to decide which would be better..Jim Beam or Tequila??:rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
You likely will be far better off if you strive for perfection, but accept high quality results, even if not perfect. Address issues like rushing the work, etc. as you pursue perfection. But also accept that we live in a not-perfect world, and our work will sometimes fall shot. ("Perfect" is a pretty high bar.) My thoughts come from lots of years at wood working, and the perspective of doing this for a living. Be sure to have plenty of fun along the way, as you only get your shot at this life one time around.
Steve
 
Nah Steve..everythings cool..have 3 grandkids that mean more(let alone my 3 daughters) than anything in the world..didn't mean to come off as insanely nitpicky..I'm used to selling pens in my little hick town of 4000 farmers..and when they see a price tag of 100++..they say what idiot would pay that for something they can steal from the bank drive through??..The price I pay for living in the atmosphere I want to live in the rest of my life:cool::cool:
 
First off.... been there, done that. It is sure is beautiful and not something anyone would want to throw aside, but.... your passion is what fuels you to do the work you do. If you didn't care, your work would show it. If YOU'RE now happy with it, you have to do what you have to do, especially when it comes down to the High End pen your building. Its easier not to assemble it not than try and take it apart later. Now if it were a cigar or sierra I would assemble it and use it myself and probably end up giving it to the first person who liked it (after I pointed out what bothered me about it. lol) We have all been there and Im sure Im not the only one with a small box of "Almost finished pens" of assorted turned blanks. And....after reading about your community, if I hadn't looked at your location, I would have sworn we were neighbors. lol
 
Last edited:
Do you normally have a hard time finishing? First one with this wood?

Are there any flaws in the wood besides the crack in the middle? I can't see any easily.

For something like an imperial, if you aren't 100% happy, don't assemble it.

Actually the crack isn't the issue..it's the crappy fill at the base of the upper tube..can't hide because of the grain and the match-up of the upper and lower..like I said, sorry about the pics.and the finish issue was I probably went too fast and overheated the blank..ca does not like heat..and i'm slightly rushy...but at the same time Dan..I'm not happy and you're correct..but what do all the perfectionists here do with errors they know no one but us will see?? I'm a newbie at higher end components and can't picture selling anything that wouldn't make me happy..trying to decide which would be better..Jim Beam or Tequila??:rolleyes:

Well, this is the time when one of my "thoughts" and suggestions in regardless to these issues, is most applicable and that is, "despite the beauty and uniqueness of a pen blank, in the end of the day, is just that, a wood pen blank, not the end of the world, and certainly not a reason to over stress about it...!"

This is coming from the person that that cuts the trees, digs the roots out and go to absolutely crazy extents to bring the wood home and process it for me and everyone else to enjoy, yes, it is a beautiful piece of Olive wood and while it may have cost you $4.00 or so, by the time it travelled half way around the world to get to you, it still a pen blank and one that can be replaced quite easily, even though no two pieces of wood are ever the same...!

I can see the problem area, apart from the 2 stress cracks in the wood, those are a devil in such a beautiful piece of wood however, if there is a wood species where cracks are accepted as natural features, Olive wood is one of a few, in fact, Olive wood without cracks is not Olive wood as a general term, stress crack (not other cracks) free pieces are very possible however, its also well known and true that, most of the best grain, figure and colourations are found around these natural flaws so, in many cases, a necessary Devil...!

Yes, there are ways to "fix" your problem and that blank, at this moment I would suggest that, you don't touch it and leave it for another day, hang those 2 barrels in a place where they can be seen, they are beautiful as is.

After you put them a side, grab another identical/same batch/pack blank and get 2 extra tubes and start all over again, as if nothing had ever happened to the other blank. If you don't have any left, you know where to get as many as you want, up to about 5,000 guaranteed, that's ready and in boxes and drying towers, there is about 0.5 tone sliced in slabs and drying slowly and about another 20 tone of logs and roots, waiting to be worked on so, if you think I may have some difficulty in getting you half a dozen of blanks like that, well think again...!:wink::biggrin:

I like to have my Olive wood and know that is not going to be used as Commercial rip-off's, I pay good money for it so that doesn't fall in the wrong hands, I will do it for as long as I can...!

In fact, and this is most interesting, I have an old friend (never met face to face) based in Brisbane (about 24 hours drive) that is flying over tomorrow morning for a weekend stay and see my wood stash, he loves Olive wood also and he wants to see the wood in person as he wants to buy some fair size blanks from bowl blanks to pen blanks and everything in between, he wants also to learn the CA finish and other stuff so, is going to be a fun weekend...!

He is not an IAP member, I will try to convince him to join in, and tell the "story" himself, will see...!:biggrin:

As for what I would do to fix those barrels, that's another story for another day...!

Good luck,

Cheers
George
 
Could you turn a flaw into a feature? Use a dremel and replace the bad fill with something like crushed turquoise or lapis? Cat's eye or jasper would also look good. You could also use a dental bit to open up the crack and fill it to match.
 
I will be watching this with interest.

I would set it aside or hang it up for now. Start over with another blank and wait till I felt comfortable (and had extrat time) to try a fix or any kind of fill.

One thing I do know.......this is not a hobby to rush anything. Learning as I go and taking my time is what I find enjoyable.
 
I agree with George. In fact thats what I have done.

I imagine I have 5 or 6 top grade Amboyna Majestic, jr, and Art Nouveau blanks sitting in drawers waiting til I figure something out, if ever I do.

Russ
 
I'm liking Sharons' idea but have never tried filling. Will check out the library and see what that entails and post whatever I come up with, be it good or bad.:wink: Thanks everyone for the comments!!
 
With the price of Imperial hardware at $50+ dollars per set, I'd use the parting tool to turn this one down to the metal and save the tubes.

If you plan to pay yourself ANYTHING, an IMP must sell >$100. IMHO, triple digit priced pens MUST BE PERFECT. "Good enough" works for give awayz and $50 pens, but not midrange priced pens.

SOMETIMES, the best pen is the one that you chose to make right.

Respectfully submitted.
 
I would just part of the damaged area, and make this a segmented pen, some contrasting darker wood or acrylic...May want to to the same to the other tube so it appears to be the design plan....Sometimes they design themselves...
 
Back
Top Bottom