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cbatzi01

cbatzi01

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Hi Guys,

My wife is adamant that I get the noise and solvent fumes of my basement shop out of the house and has green lit a new outdoor woodshed/building.

For those of you who have built an outdoor building, do you have any references? How did you estimate what size you needed? Do you have an estimate of $/sq. ft.? What things should I consider?

Thanks in advance for the input!
-Chris
 
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The first thing you need to do is check with the county or local zoning office, to see what size you can make it. Where I live I can only go 150 square feet 10" x 15' before I need to get a permit. If you plan on running electric you will probably need a permit for that too. That is much nicer than running a generator. My general advise is to go as big as you can legally and money wise. You will use it. When I moved out of the basement I went to a 24 x 24 garage kit from 84 lumber on a slab. And yes, I have filled it.

jmho

Ken
 
Build it as big as you can:biggrin: You will always find more tools to fill the vast empty spaces. Spare no expense as you may have to live in it on occasion. Mine is 62x 29 L shaped and You can hardlywalk through it. Building costs will vary from one place to the next. Frame? Block? ICF? WIll you build it or hire a contractor?
Mike
 
When you think it is big enough---double the size--it will fill up fast making you wonder what you were thinking. At least that'show it works for me.
 
Not for where I live but that doesnt mean much. Are you thinking of buying one of the prefabricated kits?
 
mredburn said:
Not for where I live but that doesnt mean much. Are you thinking of buying one of the prefabricated kits?
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Do you mean that is a low estimate? I live in Northern, Kentucky, so costs are bit lower here.

I am still in the early planning stages, so I am open to any suggestions. I did request a quote from 84lumber on their 24x24 pole barn kit. I can do 90% of the labor myself and with friends and family, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Has anyone used a pre-fab kit?

Thanks!
Chris
 
Yes in my neck of the woods that would be a very low estimate. But I live in a county that makes you build sheds to Miami Dade Hurricane codes. Any shed no matter how small has to be permitted, and it has to be anchored to the ground. Ether with straps over it with those long screw posts, or bolted to a concrete slab.
 
I have seen the steel building kits advertised but havent paid much attention to them or pricing. That might be a nice option for you. Do you have tornadoes a lot where your at?
 
My last Shop was a barn style 84 lumber kit at 3500.00 delivered everything. I added wood for the floor and walls with insulation at about 500.00 extra. Do all outlets in 4-6 gang plugs.
 
No matter how big you make it, you will fill it up. That issue is management not quantity. Now having said that it is pointless to build a shop that you don;t even know will hold all the equipment you have or intend to have.

I spent a very long time thinking about what I want to do and what I hope to do as far as work in my shop. I then actually took dimensions of tools and drew out floor plans with equipment in place that sort of thing. For me and that for me only. a 16X20 foot building is what was needed. It cost me about $5000 to build but it is nice with lots of extras. Basically nobody can give you a cost without knowing what you are going to build it with and what will go into it. Just your choice in siding can effect the final cost drastically. The cost per square foot stuff is for a designer when they are showing you different ideas and saying "you can have this for $18 a sq. ft. or this for $22 a sq. ft. even a bare bones garage kit will run you around $4000 in this area but again your area may be very different.

Do keep in mind that when selecting materials, cheapest is seldom the best choice. there is a mid point that you are buying quality but still not paying top dollar.

If you want to save a ton of headaches and just get busy building. I suggest you find a garage kit and go with that. It saves you a mountain of drawing, figuring, calculating and tons of other just little pain in the butt sort of decisions and problems. Lots of engineering in a building. things like what size 2X can you use to span that 16 foot ceiling? most people can;t even find the info needed in the book. and if they do they don't know how to use it. all that is done for you in a kit.
 
Hey Chris, I built a 30 x 50 x 16 metal building last year for our motorhome, bought it from Icon metal buildings in Seguin, Tx. The cost was $8100 delivered (plus a concrete slab)(delivery is a whole other funny story). I put it up myself, so no labor. I know this is not what you are probably looking for but it might give you some ideas on the cost side, there are some really good deals on some metal buildings if you spend enough time searching for them.

Good luck
 
I have a good friend that built a huge shop at his acreage, he ran hot water heat and dust collection in the floor. It took a lot of planning for the dust collection, but from going over there occasionally it really looks like it was a good idea. If my ship ever comes in, instead of constantly taking on water, I intend to do the same thing.
Mike
 
cbatzi01 said:
Do you guys have any idea of costing? I have read on some sites $18-22/square foot. does that sound right?

Thanks!
Chris
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I know that if I count my time at $10 per hour, I can't buy the materials and use this labor rate as cheap as Home Depot can deliver and install a Hardy Plank 12 X16 shed with loft and barn doors. The HD here will deliver and install that building for UNDER $2,500! Now, If I can just get somebody to paint it for free!:smile:
 
carverken said:
The first thing you need to do is check with the county or local zoning office, to see what size you can make it. Where I live I can only go 150 square feet 10" x 15' before I need to get a permit. If you plan on running electric you will probably need a permit for that too. That is much nicer than running a generator. My general advise is to go as big as you can legally and money wise. You will use it. When I moved out of the basement I went to a 24 x 24 garage kit from 84 lumber on a slab. And yes, I have filled it.

jmho

Ken
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Ken - Long and skinny huh? I know I wouldn't fit in it.
 
Check your county zoning. Our magic number is 750 sq. ft. Under that and you can pour a slab over and you have to pay for soil testing and an engineered foundation/slab. Our garage is 33.3x22.5 We had a good contractor and he gaver us the max but stay unedr. My (actually a portion of) shop is a 20x20 tough shed garage. Want to build the wife a 12x12 garden shed so I can reclaim the rest of it.
 
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