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Everett

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Hello to all. I am getting a new shed with in the next couple of days. I live in upstate new york. The shed is 10x20. I will be running electric to it and insulating it. My question to this forum is what would be the safer type of heating utility unit to use that won't be bothered by the saw dust?
 
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A wood stove? Serves double duty as a way to dispose of mistakes.

You said that you will have electrical service. What about gas? Propane? Heating oil? The kind of fuel source that you have will pretty much dictate the kind of heating you have.
 
I like an oil filled radiator with a box fan behind it. Only drawback is it takes a while to heat up. I go out first thing in the morning and turn it on and by the time I'm ready to work in the shop, it is warm. But my shop is extremely well insulated, and we don't have very cold winters. My shop is 22x22 and it keeps it toasty warm. In a colder climate you might need to run two, one with a fan and another right near the lathe.


There is nothing to ignite flammable fumes or cause a dust explosion.
 
I'll chime in on the wood stove as well. It can sit unobtrusively in a corner and heat the shop. Put a plug in heat exchanger (~140.00) on it and it will heat it even quicker. Just be aware that you can pick up a wood stove pretty cheap - the chimney parts are what will cost you.

As for sawdust, scoop it up and throw it on the flames - makes a fun flare up!
 
Hi Everett, I have a 9'x16' insulated, and i use a oil filled radiant heater.
I never shut it off thru the winter unless it get to 50 degrees or so outside. For me, leaving it on keeps everything warm when i'm ready to go out to turn. I just give it a burst of air to get any dust off it before i lock up.
 
sbwertz said:
I like an oil filled radiator with a box fan behind it. Only drawback is it takes a while to heat up. I go out first thing in the morning and turn it on and by the time I'm ready to work in the shop, it is warm. But my shop is extremely well insulated, and we don't have very cold winters. My shop is 22x22 and it keeps it toasty warm. In a colder climate you might need to run two, one with a fan and another right near the lathe.


There is nothing to ignite flammable fumes or cause a dust explosion.
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WoW! I'm really surprised an oil radiator can get that size warm. What wattage is it?
 
Well, the danged shop is so full of tools that there isn't much air space left to heat :biggrin:. It is heavily insulated, even the roll up door is insulated. It is a carport conversion so it has cement block walls on two sides and foam insulation on the other two and insulation in the ceiling.

Our winters are mild, as well.
Sharon

Rob73 said:
sbwertz said:
I like an oil filled radiator with a box fan behind it. Only drawback is it takes a while to heat up. I go out first thing in the morning and turn it on and by the time I'm ready to work in the shop, it is warm. But my shop is extremely well insulated, and we don't have very cold winters. My shop is 22x22 and it keeps it toasty warm. In a colder climate you might need to run two, one with a fan and another right near the lathe.


There is nothing to ignite flammable fumes or cause a dust explosion.
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WoW! I'm really surprised an oil radiator can get that size warm. What wattage is it?
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I agree with sbwertz about using the oil-filled electric heater. I live in Oklahoma City, my 16' X 24' shop is insulated and I use two electric oil-filled heaters to keep my shop warm in the winter.
Ken
 
My 12 x 24 shop isn't insulated, the inside walls are covered with peg board and the outside is corrugated tin.... so far we've only had one or two really cold days, but I use an oil filled radiator too.... I usually set it close to me at the lathe and by the end of the day the show will get tolerable... not necessarily warm, but tolerable.... until my feet get cold.
 
sbwertz said:
I like an oil filled radiator with a box fan behind it. Only drawback is it takes a while to heat up. I go out first thing in the morning and turn it on and by the time I'm ready to work in the shop, it is warm. But my shop is extremely well insulated, and we don't have very cold winters. My shop is 22x22 and it keeps it toasty warm. In a colder climate you might need to run two, one with a fan and another right near the lathe.


There is nothing to ignite flammable fumes or cause a dust explosion.
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Phoenix ain't upstate NY in the wintertime, Sharon.
 
Everett said:
Hello to all. I am getting a new shed with in the next couple of days. I live in upstate new york. The shed is 10x20. I will be running electric to it and insulating it. My question to this forum is what would be the safer type of heating utility unit to use that won't be bothered by the saw dust?
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North of Albany --- forget what most of the Southerners have told you. If you really intend to use your shop all year, including when it's 10 below and with 25 mile an hour winds, get a good wood stove if you have access to enough fuel - my second choice would be a pellet stove. Electric, no matter what method will cost you an arm and a leg, NY is not know for cheap electric rates.
 
My shop is 10 x 20 barn style (11 ft ceiling peak) , well insulated and I also use an oil filled radiator. In 20 degree temperatures I work in there very comfortably.

longbeard said:
Hi Everett, I have a 9'x16' insulated, and i use a oil filled radiant heater.
I never shut it off thru the winter unless it get to 50 degrees or so outside. For me, leaving it on keeps everything warm when i'm ready to go out to turn. I just give it a burst of air to get any dust off it before i lock up.
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If you decide to go with a wood stove be sure to find out how it will affect your Home Owners Insurance. That can be a real issue around here.
 
Smitty37 said:
sbwertz said:
I like an oil filled radiator with a box fan behind it. Only drawback is it takes a while to heat up. I go out first thing in the morning and turn it on and by the time I'm ready to work in the shop, it is warm. But my shop is extremely well insulated, and we don't have very cold winters. My shop is 22x22 and it keeps it toasty warm. In a colder climate you might need to run two, one with a fan and another right near the lathe.


There is nothing to ignite flammable fumes or cause a dust explosion.
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Phoenix ain't upstate NY in the wintertime, Sharon.
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Moved to Phoenix from Highland Falls, NY. in 1963. Been there:biggrin:.
 
dalecamino said:
Everett, a heat/ac unit like the motel rooms have is a thought. Got all seasons covered that way.
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That was my thought. A "mini-split" heat pump may be idea. You would be suprised how energy efficient it would be at controlling the temperature of such a small space, especially if well insulated. You can even buy the package ready to install. Install it yourself and then have an HVAC guy come and leak check the connections and set it running.
 
I am using a 240 volt electric heater that I bought for around $250 I think it was. I have the rafters insulated, a roof vent, and an insulated door. This past weekend when it was 20 degrees out I had it going along with a small utility heater that operates on 110 and it actually got warm enough that I wanted to take off my coat. I looked into MANY types of heat last year, stoves, propane, etc. I went with this because the cost wasn't too bad, I didn't need to worry about insurance issues, and I didn't have to run anything through the roof or my cinder block walls on the garage. Here is a link to the one I purchased.

G70 NewAir Electric Garage Heater - Heats 400 Sq. Ft.
 
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I would go with a small wood stove for a small shop over a pellet stove. We heat our house with a pellet stove and when the power goes out-seldom happens-so does the stove. A wood stove does not worry about power outages, and a small wood stove does not need a lot of fuel. Plus, you are not in your shop all the time so maintaining the fire would be minimal effort. Stove pipe is pretty darn expensive though.
 
Lenny said:
If you decide to go with a wood stove be sure to find out how it will affect your Home Owners Insurance. That can be a real issue around here.
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I wouldn't expect it to have too much impact if it's installed in a detatched building. They can get pretty antsy about installations in the main dwelling though. If you can find something that operates off Natural gas that is the wave of the future.
 
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