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I've been using the Mylands friction polish but haven't used their sanding sealer. Will that make much difference? I normally to to 18000, so it has a little shine from the outset.

The finish seems pretty durable (I use caranuba wax last).

Keep feeling like I should go to something more durable, but it doesn't seem too broken... Lots of ideas floating around here ...
 
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Hello,

Yes, using a sanding sealer prior to finishing with the friction polish will improve the finish on wood and to a lesser degree, on stabilized wood blanks. Try a test pen and see for yourself... On the top barrel, use your current protocol. On the lower barrel use the new protocol with the addition of the sanding sealer and compare the ultimate luster for yourself. You will be able to clearly see the difference. Good luck to you and best wishes in all of your woodturning endeavors!
 
I started off just using mylands friction polish for along time then started using it with the sanding sealer it has made a huge difference i do 2 coats of sealer then 2 coats of the friction polish getting the blanks very hot with each coat i get a beautiful finish.

Shane
 
Bought a can this afternoon and plan to do just that this weekend. How long does the sealer need to cure between coats?

Originally posted by SteveRussell
<br />Hello,

Yes, using a sanding sealer prior to finishing with the friction polish will improve the finish on wood and to a lesser degree, on stabilized wood blanks. Try a test pen and see for yourself... On the top barrel, use your current protocol. On the lower barrel use the new protocol with the addition of the sanding sealer and compare the ultimate luster for yourself. You will be able to clearly see the difference. Good luck to you and best wishes in all of your woodturning endeavors!
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As long as you get each coat real hot (friction) it only needs to cure for as long as it takes for you to start the next coat. good luck i think you will be happy i myself like it alot better than a CA finish[:D]

Shane
 
Originally posted by doddman70
<br />As long as you get each coat real hot (friction) it only needs to cure for as long as it takes for you to start the next coat. good luck i think you will be happy i myself like it alot better than a CA finish[:D]

Shane
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I used it this a.m. on the handle of a letter opener and do think it gave a nicer sheen. Any opinions on how it affects durability?
 
Myland's is a good product and will make nice looking pens. Downside is that, with or without sanding sealer or top wax, it is not durable for things, like pens, that are frequently handled. Nice for decorative bowls and such but not our thing. Read the threads on CA and laquer finishes. There is a reason why the top pen makers use those products the most.
 
We use Mylands with the sanding sealer on all our pens. My daily writer has this finish and I have been using it for about a year (even after our son (age 2) got a hold of it) it still looks beautiful! <b>Not all the "top pen makers" use CA and or Lacquer</b>. Does that mean that I could never be considered a "top pen maker" if I don't use that type of finish? I think NOT! I don't like the way that the CA or Lacquer feel on the pen when done. If I want my pens to feel like plastic I will turn plastic. But I do use Lacquer on some of my other turnings.
Have a wonderful day!
Dawn [:D]
 
WOW!!! not sure how to take that one "Top Pen Makers" [:D] not that i consider myself a top pen maker i have used many different finishes on my pens along with CA and Laquer my personal opinion is the ca finish reminds me of plastic the laquer finish i do like i just don't like the amount of time it takes to get the finish done. the method i use for mylands i learned from some of the "top pen makers"[:D] I'm not saying its the best however i think alot of people may not apply the finish the correct way meaning with alot of friction i have pens out there being used on a daily basis with this finish for right at 2 years and they look as good now as they did when i made them.so as far as durability goes i think done the right way the mylands finish is very durable.

Just my opinion

Shane[:D]
 
Hi Shane --

I'm still to new to turning and this forum to do a lot of opining, but it seems to me that one element missing in this conversation is what type of pen we're talking about.

In my experience, the wear occurs on the part of the pen that is held when writing. I've never had any problem with the top part of the pen, or really anything past the bottom inch or so. So a pen that has metal or plastic there will be less of a wear problem. In other words, the finish durability seems to be a bigger issue for twist-type pens like the Euro/Montblanc style, but not so much for closed-end pens like the ones that use a Schmidt rollerball, or of course for fountain pens. Maybe one implication is that a laquer or CA finish might make more sense for a twist.

Carl


Originally posted by doddman70
<br />i have pens out there being used on a daily basis with this finish for right at 2 years and they look as good now as they did when i made them.so as far as durability goes i think done the right way the mylands finish is very durable.

Just my opinion

Shane[:D]
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I surely don't want to start an argument but I do believe that any shellac based friction polish is not the best choice for pen finishes. It's Ok if others don't agree with me. At one time I thought that friction polish finishes were a good choice and a lasting finish and I too thought that the pen(s) I used daily looked as good after a year or so as they did after making them. But, we see the pens daily and do not notice the deterioration in the finish. It wasn't until I saw a pen that had not been used placed next to one that had been daily used that I really noticed the difference. Shellac and carnauba wax based friction polishes will not look as nice after daily use as they did when first finished. Shellac and wax react to the moistrue and oils on our hands and degrade the finish. Some of us here are old enough to remember the white or dark rings on our grandparent's tables. These rings were caused by condensation and the reaction of the moisture with shellac and wax. I can say that the pens I use daily that are finished with CA,lacquer or Enduro do look as nice after several months of use as the new pens I make and finish with CA, enduro or lacquer. Just my opinions and observations and nothing else.

OH, do I still use friction polishes? Yes I do. Some customers don't like the look of CA or lacquer but do like the patina that develops with daily use of shellac based friction polishes. And, the customer is always correct.

Do a good turn daily!
Don
 
Originally posted by Rifleman1776
<br />Being one of the leading nit-pickers here, I should have known that was coming. I should have said: 'many of the top....', or 'most'. Can't win for losin' in this joint. [:p][;)]
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LOL[:D][:D] even funier is that winpooh498 is my wife we must have been responding to the thread at the same time!![8D]

Shane
 
Let me start of by saying, SORRY if I was kind of snarky in my reply.[B)] I really enjoy this site and the diffences in opions[:D]. I am also glad that we all have so many diffent options in what we use with our hobbies. Life would be all to boring if we all used the exact same method and products. I think from now on I might let my husband Shane (doddman70) reply when I'm feeling kind of snarky about a topic[B)]

I hope that you all have a wonderful weekend.

Dawn
 
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