Mokume Gane and Copper Duo Kitless Fountain Pen

[wizard]

Revised: Mokume Gane and Copper Duo Kitless Fountain Pen

This was a rough first try at combining solid copper with triple twist Mokume Gane. Barrel and section were both from solid copper rod. Mokume and copper were finished together with patina. Copper in the mokume matched that of the copper bar fairly closely. Added a piece of mokume as an accent at the the bottom of barrel. A copper clip without patina was fastened with a 2.5 mm stainless screw tapped and threaded in the Mokume. Thanks for looking. Doc

ADDED REVISED VERSION OF PEN:
1. Copper plated screw
2. New clip design
3. Black Enamel Medium Bock #6 Nib

 

[More4dan]

I absolutely love it! And as much as the Mokume Gane cost, not a bad way to use it more sparingly. Have you considered copper plating your screw head. You just need some copper sulfate solution and a battery.

Danny


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[magpens]

You looking for another prize, Doc ? ....... you got it !! . Lovely concept and work !!!

Can you cite a "grade spec" for the copper ... especially in the clip ? . I want to try a copper clip myself ... thanks for inspiration.

Also, what are the threads ... cap to body and body to section ... please. They kinda look like singles but what diam/TPI ?

 

[magpens]

I absolutely love it! And as much as the Mokume Gane cost, not a bad way to use it more sparingly. Have you considered copper plating your screw head. You just need some copper sulfate solution and a battery.

Danny, do you have any thoughts on how durable such an electro-plated copper coating would be ?

Also, do you know if there is any homebrew method of chrome plating ?

Or any other metallic plating ?

 

[Curly]

Gorgeous pen as usual Doc. Mal one could just use a brass screw and be a little closer without the plating. The rub would be finding a nice one.

 

[magpens]

Closer in color ? . copper and brass are not that close ... oh yea, but closer than the steel that Doc used

But that is precisely why Danny suggested copper plating the steel screw ... to get close in color

 

[OZturner]

Stunning Pen Doc.
Brilliant Idea to use Copper Bar for the Body.
As Copper isn't the most easiest metal to machine, did you have any problems?
The Mokume Gane for the Cap, was Outstanding, as are the Finial Cap, and the Body Plug.
I love the Copper Mokume Gane, Spectacular.
Did you take the weight of the Completed Pen?
Superb Craftsmanship, my Friend.
Congratulations,
Brian.

 

[Gregory Hardy]

Really stunning! Let me ask - do you anticipate the clip "spinning" with only one screw?

 

[Bryguy]

Very classy!

 

[Jim15]

Absolutely beautiful work!

 

[More4dan]

I absolutely love it! And as much as the Mokume Gane cost, not a bad way to use it more sparingly. Have you considered copper plating your screw head. You just need some copper sulfate solution and a battery.

Danny, do you have any thoughts on how durable such an electro-plated copper coating would be ?

Also, do you know if there is any homebrew method of chrome plating ?

Or any other metallic plating ?

I've only done copper. I've seen examples of gold electroplating. Chrome takes multiple platings of nickel and copper ahead of the final chrome plating and involves some pretty nasty chemicals.

What's cool with copper sulfate is it will plate carbon steel without an electrical current. Just dip it it. Stainless steel does require electricity. Google home electroplating and head on down the wormhole. ;-)

Danny


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[MRDucks2]

Chrome playing should be left to the pros and there is likely a chrome shop somewhere in your area. Chrome plating is a nasty process for both people and the environment and should only be done under the right conditions by the right people. One of the few things Craft wise that I tend to feel strongly about.


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[wizard]

Pen and Plating

ADDED REVISED VERSION OF PEN:
1. Copper plated screw
2. New clip design
3. Black Enamel Medium Bock #6 Nib

I think I like it better with the copper plated screw and medium Bock enamel nib.


I plate my own items using a fairly heavy duty electroplating machine with copper, gold, etc. I use Caswell materials and heavy plate, The threads are triple 12 mm X 0.8 mm and section 10mm X 1.0mm. There is a small flat area where clip is that prevents spinning of the clip. I haven't had that problem..at least yet.
There probably is a grade of copper...not sure.. but will check for you Mal The copper bar is from Fastenal. The other three pictures are example of copper in toto including the new copper Bock nib :wink:. Regards, Doc

 

[wizard]

Gold Plating Mont Blanc Gold Vermeil Meisterstuck Rollerball

Makeover ....Example of a heavy gold electroplating of a 25 year old Mont Blanc Gold Vermeil Meisterstuck Rollerball

 

[magpens]

Thanks, Doc, for those very interesting and helpful remarks and the additional pics.

Do you have any 'take' on the durability of the electroplated gold ?

Is the solute expensive ? What is its chemical name, and where do you get it ?

Is the solvent highly acidic or basic ?

I would love to try some gold electroplating ... is it safe for home use outdoors ?

 

[More4dan]

I've seen a vendor at a gun show that did gold electroplating with a cobalt additive that made for a hard gold plating for guns.


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[magpens]

Thank you for that, Dan .... if you find any details about that process I would be very interested in getting some links, please.

 

[Cmiles1985]

That is an amazing pen. Very well done.

 

[jeff]

Doc, thanks for a very informative thread and another beauty for the front page! :biggrin:

 

[Paul in OKC]

I think I'll just quit now, while I am behind Beautiful.

 

[wizard]

Thank you all of for your kind remarks!!
Regards,
Doc

Doc, thanks for a very informativex thread and another beauty for the front page! :biggrin:

Jeff,
Thank you very much for your kind remarks and the privilege of having a pen on the front page.
Regards,
Doc

 

[wizard]

Thanks, Doc, for those very interesting and helpful remarks and the additional pics.

Do you have any 'take' on the durability of the electroplated gold ?

Is the solute expensive ? What is its chemical name, and where do you get it ?

Is the solvent highly acidic or basic ?

I would love to try some gold electroplating ... is it safe for home use outdoors ?

Hi Mal,

Sorry for delay in responding. If you are interested in gold plating, I would start with a GoldSmith kit that comes with a rectifier, is safe, easy to use and one of the most durable finishes that I have ever tried. It comes with attachments for fine detail work. Gold Plating solutions can also plate it for you.

https://www.goldplating.com/collections/plating-kits/products/gold-smith-machine

https://www.goldplating.com/collections/plating-kits

Also sold by same on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OPCMUDY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[magpens]

WOW ! Thanks, Doc !

I had no idea that such plating apparati are available. VERY good to know