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Looking to make some chopsticks for my father, who spent a little over two years living in Taiwan when he was younger.
I know Tung oil (100% pure) is a solid food safe finish, but i was hoping for something a little more durable.
Does anyone know of a food safe CA or lacquer that I could buy to finish the chopsticks for my dad?
 
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leave them unfinished and use wood like maple. Utensils should not be finished if being used. My opinion. Mineral oil is the go to finish mostly for food contack wooden products such as bowls. How well it seals I have no idea that is why I say use a closed grain wood such as hard maple.
 
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My wife's family is Japanese. We (both us and my 95 year old mother-in-law) have chopsticks that are a very dark tight grain wood (likely walnut) that, as John (@jttheclockman) notes have no finish. My concern with something light like maple is that if left unfinished it will stain with use. The walnut stains, but being dark, you can't see it.
 
As Michael said, Shellac, especially if you make it up with purified Shellac flakes and high-proof grain alcohol (like 190 Proof Everclear). An alternative would be PME Clear Edible Glaze Spray (confectioner's glaze) which is commonly sprayed on sugar and chocolate based candies to give them that shiny appearance and to keep them from melting on your fingers - like the Hershey Chocolate Drops Candy for example.

Unfortunately, Shellac doesn't get along very well with water, so for a utensil that is going to be washed frequently I would probably go with a food grade mineral oil and/or beeswax (4 parts oil to 1 part beeswax). I buy my mineral oil from Walgreens - Walgreens brand Mineral Oil (Lubricant Laxative).

Dave
 
My experience has been that then Japanese do not put a finish on most chop sticks, they throw them away after using. I know that some are, somehow or in some way, saturated with protective oil, but they do not look like they have a finish. They often have their own personal chop sticks (with urushi finish) that they sometimes carry with them or for use at home when they have guests. Some of the chop sticks can be very expensive and these are well decorated. I think they use the same lacquer (urushi) that they use on dishes and bowls, and it is far more durable than most all other finishes, period. IF giving to use for eating, it needs a protective finish or saturated with oil and dried for a while. If used for cooking, unfinished. That said, some oily woods like ebonies, teak and a few others - these oily woods will not take a finish well, unless one is very experienced. If using this kind of (oily) wood, just make it without a finish.

I remember seeing many chop sticks (for use with eating) made from teak, which is dense and oily and buffed. These had decorative finishes only for the top half and buffed on the bottom half.

FYI - Did you know that one (non-Asian) can tell the difference between Chinese, Korean and Japanese by the way each hold and use their chop sticks? Usually, the location of the grip, the different grip styles give them away.

I should also say that different regions within a country, there were differences in use style and choice of chop sticks.

The Japanese language was difficult for me but I learned it! The cultural styles and difference between regions intrigued me immensely. My Japanese friends helped me and liked the fact that I was naturally interested in those cultural habits within regions.
 
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Man I should be dead I guess because when I grew up my Mom had a couple sets of wood utensils that she used constantly for many many years to make and stir meals in bowls and they were plain wood no finish. They became more and more worn down but never splinters coming off or finish particles when chipped. How did I survive I do not know. Oh yea they had another purpose too. She would chase us kids around and hit our behinds when we got out of line with them. The good old days.

here is what AI says about wooden utensils. (this is the world we live in now) ( just thought I would check with a more intelligent source than me :))

Best Wood for Wooden Food Utensils

When selecting wood for wooden food utensils, hardwoods like maple, cherry, walnut, and beech are the best choices. These woods are known for their durability, fine grain, and natural antibacterial properties, making them ideal for food-safe utensils. They are less likely to absorb moisture and bacteria, ensuring hygiene for food preparation. Softwoods, such as pine, are generally not recommended for cooking utensils due to their tendency to warp and their porous nature, which can impart unwanted flavors to food.
 
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When Japanese do not put a finish on chop sticks, they throw them away after using. But they often have their own personal chop sticks (with urushi finish) that they sometimes carry with them or for use at home when they have guests, Some of the chop sticks can be very expensive and these are well decorated. I think they use the same lacquer (urushi) that they use on dishes and bowls, and it is far more durable than most all other finishes. IF giving to use, it needs a protective finish.

FYI - Did you know that one (non-Asian) can tell the difference between Chinese, Korean and Japanese by the way each hold and use their chop sticks? Usually, the location of the grip, the different grip styles give them away.
Hank - I agree. I had the pleasure of being gifted a very nice pair of black lacquered chopsticks by a relative, brought back from a trip to Japan. They are quite fancy and at this point, well used! A sushi chef friend showed me a number of different ways to hold them, identifying each hold by where I might see the grip again. I'm not fancy - as long as the food makes it to my mouth and not my shirt, I am a happy camper!

Kevin
 
Man I should be dead I guess because when I grew up my Mom had a couple sets of wood utensils that she used constantly for many many years to make and stir meals in bowls and they were plain wood no finish. They became more and more worn down but never splinters coming off or finish particles when chipped. How did I survive I do not know. Oh yea they had another purpose too. She would chase us kids around and hit our behinds when we got out of line with them. The good old days.

here is what AI says about wooden utensils. (this is the world we live in now) ( just thought I would check with a more intelligent source than me :))

Best Wood for Wooden Food Utensils

When selecting wood for wooden food utensils, hardwoods like maple, cherry, walnut, and beech are the best choices. These woods are known for their durability, fine grain, and natural antibacterial properties, making them ideal for food-safe utensils. They are less likely to absorb moisture and bacteria, ensuring hygiene for food preparation. Softwoods, such as pine, are generally not recommended for cooking utensils due to their tendency to warp and their porous nature, which can impart unwanted flavors to food.
Wood utensils - yes, the natural woods as you mentioned;
For eating (in place of knife, fork, spoon) - that is a different animal - so to speak.
 
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Man I should be dead I guess because when I grew up my Mom had a couple sets of wood utensils that she used constantly for many many years to make and stir meals in bowls and they were plain wood no finish. They became more and more worn down but never splinters coming off or finish particles when chipped. How did I survive I do not know. Oh yea they had another purpose too. She would chase us kids around and hit our behinds when we got out of line with them. The good old days.

here is what AI says about wooden utensils. (this is the world we live in now) ( just thought I would check with a more intelligent source than me :))

Best Wood for Wooden Food Utensils

When selecting wood for wooden food utensils, hardwoods like maple, cherry, walnut, and beech are the best choices. These woods are known for their durability, fine grain, and natural antibacterial properties, making them ideal for food-safe utensils. They are less likely to absorb moisture and bacteria, ensuring hygiene for food preparation. Softwoods, such as pine, are generally not recommended for cooking utensils due to their tendency to warp and their porous nature, which can impart unwanted flavors to food.
Why you say that? Wooden utensils are food safe by nature, there is no need for a finish. Most hardwoods will do
 
Looking to make some chopsticks for my father, who spent a little over two years living in Taiwan when he was younger.
I know Tung oil (100% pure) is a solid food safe finish, but i was hoping for something a little more durable.
Does anyone know of a food safe CA or lacquer that I could buy to finish the chopsticks for my dad?
Ca is not just a bad idea is prohibited for food contact in the us and the eu. Even fully cured lacquers or epoxy resins leach a great amount of chemicals when exposed to warm or acidic foods ( if the food is warm AND acidic the effect is multiplied).
 
Here you go. I gave my opinion and it is only an opinion as I always have to stress here for some reason.

For those who want to finish your chop sticks, forks, spoons, knives maybe this will help.

https://everythingchopsticks.com/finishes-used-to-protect-wood-chopsticks.html
John, your mother's wooden utensils were not put into peoples mouths for daily eating. Wooden cooking utensils and wooden eating utensils are not the same. If that stresses you . . . I'm praying for you.
 
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John, your mother's wooden utensils were not put into peoples mouths for daily eating. Wooden cooking utensils and wooden eating utensils are not the same. If that stresses you . . . I'm praying for you.
How in the world do I get into these things. ? All I did was make a suggestion to not put a finish on them If you or anyone else wants to finish utensils go ahead. Can I not post an opinion any more. I am not stressed (when I said stress I mean emphisize) I am not making utensils. I am getting to the point that I should stop posting all together. My second post was a tongue in cheek try at humor but that too is mistaken. I give up. I did more than anyone else in this thread. I gave link on what woods usually are used and also ways to do finishes. I am done with this thread.
 
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