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johnnycnc

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On my way to work this morning and my cars temp gage shot up, idiot light came on..HOT! Pulled off on the interstate shoulder and there she blows! steam that is...
I drive a 2003 Buick Regal with the 3800 Series II engine. (non-supercharged)
Sleep deprived, I goofed and had left my cell at home. bummer.
Nobody really stops for you anymore, so I had to figure out a solution.
I did have a gallon of distilled water for my work coffee machine, by chance, so that got me 3 miles, gently, to an exit.

100.00 tow bill back home, and 27.00 in parts and antifreeze and a couple hours relearning to mechanic on a car later, here is what I discovered;
This engine has 2 plastic 90° "pipes" for the heater hose return system, they go in the manifold and water pump. They had rotted, went bad, and one was streaming really well..
Internet search turned up this to be pretty common, but of course I'd never looked for it since mine were good up until this morning.:rolleyes:

So, my tip for anyone with one of these engines, is to do some preventative maintenance and replace these before they go on you.
The 3800 V6 are in more than Buicks, my wife had a Chevy Impala with this engine too.

Not sure if age or miles (178K) did my fittings in but they were in really bad shape even missing material inside them from (?) corrosion.

If you can do a tuneup, you can do this job. If not, consider a mechanic to at least check yours.

I figure at least one person here has one of these engines, so thought I'd share my ****ty experience this a.m. with you all!

P.S...I drove it like I stole it after the repairs to stress test it. I had to know it was going to hold, as I drive interstate and you all know how you have to hammer it at times to merge on, etc.
Refilling the gas tank from only 20 some miles since the last fill up..avg mpg: 9. I usually get 27.
goes to show what a heavy right foot can cost you in gas!
Granted, it did include some idling after the repairs, but..9 mpg. it must have thought it was a 454, LOL.

John
 
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Hey John, these motors are notorious for those pipes to go bad. You should've called, I could of drove up and fixed it for you.
 
Hey John, these motors are notorious for those pipes to go bad. You should've called, I could of drove up and fixed it for you.

Yeah, the pieces were so common, they had them in that goofy "Help!" brand. :biggrin:

I would have hired a mechanic today believe me, but with the shops around here,figured..Saturday..need it done today...fat chance that was going to happen. So, I used it as a learning experience with my son, he is 15, and thinks he might want to be a mechanic. He learned a lot, and I had to relearn a few things!
 
I'll check it out on those hoses and fittings. I'm pretty sure my wife's monte carlo is the 3800 turbo. She's up there getting close to the 200k mark too. Those 3800 engines last a long time, and I'd like it to last longer.
 
Get thee some AAA Plus. 100 mile tows. One tow pays for a year of coverage.

I drive old cars, currently an 86 Saab 900, previously VW Busses, so it's critical that I have that coverage.

We also do lots of interstate driving (the wife just got back from a road trip to Cali driving a 99 Exploder with over 200k on the clock). I can't imaging being without AAA anymore.
 
Sounds like a frustrating experience. Glad you got it fixed. I would have been clueless.
It was no fun, believe me:)

Sorry this happened John and, where it happened. Good you had that jug of water with you.
Chuck, that water was quite the blessing...luck or the good Lord had me bringing it just at that time. I know I'll be getting a supplies kit in the trunk this next week!

I'll check it out on those hoses and fittings. I'm pretty sure my wife's monte carlo is the 3800 turbo. She's up there getting close to the 200k mark too. Those 3800 engines last a long time, and I'd like it to last longer.
Worth a look, for sure. I like my 3800 btw. it's a good engine overall, seems like.

Get thee some AAA Plus. 100 mile tows. One tow pays for a year of coverage.

I drive old cars, currently an 86 Saab 900, previously VW Busses, so it's critical that I have that coverage.

We also do lots of interstate driving (the wife just got back from a road trip to Cali driving a 99 Exploder with over 200k on the clock). I can't imaging being without AAA anymore.

i thought about that, Thanks! Only thing is, I can't afford to miss work,
and older vehicles put me at that risk. Granted, they can all break down but I've had better luck with newer stuff. I'm trying to wring the last out of this one for now before I trade...
I had a talk with the tow driver on the way home about AAA, man what a string of cuss words he had for what he went through on his end in dealing with them! But he said it was worth getting, too.
 
Oh, yeah. The drivers hate AAA. They get crap rates, and have to meet a ton of regulations created by AAA (age of trucks, secure vehicle storage, etc etc etc). But most also agree that as a consumer, it's a great bit of insurance.

When the starter went out on the Saab a few weeks ago, I discovered the wife had held off on renewing AAA (I haven't been working for a while now, so was trying to save money). The tow, 2 miles, cost $90. I immediately renewed my AAA... Even with two of us using Plus, it was only $160.

BTW: Newer cars are nice and all... And tend to be more reliable in the short term, but that monthly payment is just impossible for me. I financed the Exploder years ago when we first moved here from California. I wanted the wife to have a decent 4x4 vehicle to lug the kids around in. Otherwise, we were happy with the 80's Volvo she was driving.
 
Hey John, these motors are notorious for those pipes to go bad. You should've called, I could of drove up and fixed it for you.

Yeah, the pieces were so common, they had them in that goofy "Help!" brand. :biggrin:

I would have hired a mechanic today believe me, but with the shops around here,figured..Saturday..need it done today...fat chance that was going to happen. So, I used it as a learning experience with my son, he is 15, and thinks he might want to be a mechanic. He learned a lot, and I had to relearn a few things!

Emergency mechanical work in August on a 1972 chevelle when I was about 17 is one of the main reasons I decided to pursue a little more education and then a hitch in the air force. I didn't suspect till years later that dad stopped the truck he was towing the car with in a spot where the side I was going to be working on would be out of the shade and in full sunlight about the time I got enough parts taken off that I couldn't move it on purpose. :-) Of course I figured out after I left home that he was a lot smarter about a lot of things than ever suspected. Funny how that works.

Time spent actually doing something with your kids is never wasted. Enjoy!
 
Get thee some AAA Plus. 100 mile tows. One tow pays for a year of coverage.

I drive old cars, currently an 86 Saab 900, previously VW Busses, so it's critical that I have that coverage.

We also do lots of interstate driving (the wife just got back from a road trip to Cali driving a 99 Exploder with over 200k on the clock). I can't imaging being without AAA anymore.

I'm not sure about Colorado AAA, but here I have a premier membership. It gives me 3 tows up to 100 miles and 1 tow up to 200 miles each year. I pay under $100.00 a year for it. Might ask your AAA agent about it.
 
I pay $13.95 per month for the highest level (platinum?) Allstate Motor Club. No limit on tows or other services - it has paid for itself several times over. I drive 80,000 miles a year, it is nice to have that service just-in-case.
 
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I pay $13.95 per month for the highest level (platinum?) Allstate Motor Club. No limit on tows or other services - it has paid for itself several times over. I drive 80,000 miles a year, it is nice to have that service just-in-case.

I guess I'm spoiled but I can't remember when the last time I needed roadside assistance. But, then I drive relatively new cars and normally not over about 75 - 80 thousand miles before I sell them.
 
One good thing to remember if you blow a cooling hose or spring a leak like this is to refill the radiator but leave the radiator cap off. You can drive quite a distance this way if you drive slowly - 30 mph maximum. Watch your temperature gauge but usually anything faster and your engine will overheat. Driving slowly allows the engine to run cool and with the cap off doesn't build up any pressure to force the coolant out.
 
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