Are all RPM's the same?

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If someone post they do something at certain RPM (say 1900 rpms) on their JET 1642 is that the same for a JET 1014, 1220, 1236, etc.? Maybe even a Shopsmith or Grizzly?? Just trying to figure out if I need to backoff or adjust for certain applications.
 
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However your surface speeds will vary by diameter. An 8inch buffing wheel rotating at 1725 rpm has a faster surface speed than a 6 inch buffing wheel at 1725 rpm.


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Its based on how many times the spindle rotates in a minute. Not on diameter or anything else. At 900rpm the spindle will turn all the way around 900 times in a minute.
 
Are they the same for a 1 or 2 or is it based on diamiter. How does it know which I have.
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Nothing knows, it's just a fact of mathematics.

RPM is constant. No matter what is spinning on the lathe, any point on the workpiece will revolve around the center of the shaft the same number of times per minute.

However, what's important when you're touching a tool to whatever is spinning is how fast the surface of the material is running against the cutting edge of the tool. That depends on how far away the tool is from the center of the shaft. It's called the "Cutting Speed" and is usually in feet per minute.

Points on the workpiece (or grinding wheel or whatever is spinning) have a longer distance to travel to make one rotation the further out they are from the center of rotation. Just like in order to drive around a two mile racetrack in the same time someone else is driving around a one mile racetrack, you'd have to go faster along the path you're traveling.

For penturning, because our workpieces (pen barrels, usually) are relatively the same size, we don't often talk about surface speed, we just refer to the RPM. Bowl turners on the other hand are very concerned about surface speed because that varies greatly from a small bowl to a large one, and because the cutting speed on the outside of a big bowl has to be controlled for safety and machinability reasons.

Hope that helps, but reading it over, it's as clear as mud :biggrin:
 
A long what Jeff was saying in the above post. What got me start on this is: someone post that they sand their barrels and finish at x amount of RPMs. If my barrel is not the same circumferance as thier's I will get mixed results? I guess that would be the "cutting speed"?
 
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The differences will be very small. You might increase or decrease your speeds when you see the results you are getting at the stated rpm's. Different technics may give you different results than they get.
 
If someone post they do something at certain RPM (say 1900 rpms) on their JET 1642 is that the same for a JET 1014, 1220, 1236, etc.? Maybe even a Shopsmith or Grizzly?? Just trying to figure out if I need to backoff or adjust for certain applications.


Some lathes have the gear to directly read revolutions per minute.

Some lathes have electronics that display a number that can be approximated to revolutions per minute.

Some lathes have no electronics that indicate revolutions per minute and the RPMs are estimated (guessed).

All these are usually communicate with fervent faith that they are both accurate and precise.

My variable speed lathes are the last kind, so I take all rpm numbers with 2 aspirin and do not worry over much about speeds beyond a relative sense of slow to fast. It really does not make that much difference in a few hundred RPM unless there is a lot of vibration.
 
This may give you a little better idea of what you want to know.
With a lathe speed of 1725 rpm the surface speed of an 8" wheel is about 40 miles per hour. With the same lathe speed of 1725 rpm a 3/4" blank is traveling at about 3.85 mph. If my math is correct. I won't get into the drag put on by a larger object. Even though the rpms are the same, the surface speed increases because of the outside distance traveled. So if you take those 14" rims off your car, and replace them with 20s, be prepared to pay some speeding tickets if you don't have your speedo recalibrated. Jim S
 
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