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I watched a video and messed with the settings on our camera. This is closer to the actual color of the pen, at least on my monitor. I know it's all fingerprinted up, but I was just trying to take a good pic for once.
Any suggestions are welcome.








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Thanks for looking...
 
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Dozer , it looks pretty good for the color, but appears like it is a little blown out. The detail in the highlights are barley there. Did you make the highlights so bright with the settings on the camera or did you use software?

If you used the camera on auto, try to get it to do a bracket. One right on and the one under and one over. Check your camera to see if it has an auto bracketing setting. It will usually take a series of three exposures.
 
The photo actually looks fake. It looks like a print. I am not a camera guy at all and in fact I use a point and shoot and what ever gets shot gets shown. :smile: I think you are trying too hard. Take a phot outside in daylight and use that to compare you photos. You will never get any better realism or photo of actual colors than to use mother nature.
 
The background is distracting. Also, I prefer to see the clip in a photo, cause that's all that someone will see when it is in a pocket.

Tom
 
The photo actually looks fake. It looks like a print. I am not a camera guy at all and in fact I use a point and shoot and what ever gets shot gets shown. :smile: I think you are trying too hard. Take a phot outside in daylight and use that to compare you photos. You will never get any better realism or photo of actual colors than to use mother nature.

I know how to take pics in the sun, that is the way I prefer to do it.
However, the sun doesn't always cooperate and having a camera that's capable of taking good pics, I want to learn to use it.

The auto function NEVER works inside without sunlight. It ALWAYS comes out dark or the colors are way off.

This was taken in the manual mode and tried to set it to the video I watched, but still doesn't look to good.

No software was used to enhance the photo, only to resize it. This is how it came off the camera.

Thanks for the replies, someday, I will learn to use a camera. In fact, it's part of my class curriculum when I get started and get to that class.
 
Dozer what kind of camera do you have?
can you control the Aperture and shutter speeds?
if you have it on manual in bright sun light I would try to set my ISO at 80 to 100
set your Aperture around f8 and shutter speed at 1/60 of a second as a starting point.
then set your shutter speed to 125 and 1/30th for the three picture bracket. see which one comes out better. Again this is just a starting point. keep a log and see how they come out. That is the luxury with digital you can shoot a lot and you have instant results.
 
I'm not taking pics in the sun. If I were, they come out just fine. It's taking pics inside on a cloudy night with rain and no moon.


The more I mess with it, the worse it gets. I got a couple pics that looked good as far as color, but it was all pixelated. I couldn't enlarge the pic.
There are too many things that can be adjusted to correct the same problem. For example, if the pic is dark, it says to adjust ISO, but in another part of the book, it says to adjust the aperture.

I guess I'll do like some have mentioned and just take the pic and it comes out how it comes out. Just not worth the aggrivation.
 
This is how it comes out on auto in the kitchen with the flourescent light on. Just point and shoot. Better than anything in the manual mode.






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That is the way to do it. Now lose the fingers and place on a grey board and you will get the best photo yet. The auto function will tweak the color. You may have to take a couple photos for this to happen as it adjusts for color correction. On this site that is good enough. If you want proffesional photos for a website that is a different story and can't help there either.
 
try it again

I'm not taking pics in the sun. If I were, they come out just fine. It's taking pics inside on a cloudy night with rain and no moon.

LOL, ok take a deep breath and walk away from the camera... LOL.
1st what make and model is your camera?
I will try to look up the manual and tell you what to do.


The more I mess with it, the worse it gets. I got a couple pics that looked good as far as color, but it was all pixelated. I couldn't enlarge the pic.
There are too many things that can be adjusted to correct the same problem. For example, if the pic is dark, it says to adjust ISO, but in another part of the book, it says to adjust the aperture.

Ok here's the thing about ISO, shutter speed and Aperture, The book is correct they all control light. Now let em explain that statement before you get the pitchforks and torches.

ISO controls light by it's sensitivity to light. A low ISO setting say 100 is less sensitive than a setting of 400. Which means you would need more light or in this case Brighter light to shoot the same subject at ISO 100 than you would at ISO 400. SO If I were in a dark room and lit one candle at ISO 100 you would make out the candle and not much else, but at ISO 400 you will see a lot more of the room. There is a trade off though, at ISO 100 the pixelation will be finer whereas the ISO 400 the pixelation becomes more pronounced. Everything in photography has a trade off.


Now Shutter speeds control the amount of light that hits the image processor and the depth of field. A shutter speed of F 2.8 is what is called wide open. At F 2.8 your depth of focus is very narrow, what I mean by that is that you have a point of focus anything in front of and behind that point is your depth of focus. So If i were to use f 2.8 there would be a very narrow depth of focus but If I were to use a higher number say F 16 there would be a lot more in focus in front of and behind the depth of Focus.
So what is the trade off? The trade off is amount of Light for Depth of Focus.


Now Shutter speed, this controls how long the light is allowed to hit the image processor and also control movement of your subject. Have you ever taken a picture and your hands were shaky, well this setting alone would help control that. So If you use a slower shutter speed say 1/4 of a second the duration that the light is allowed to hit the image processor would be longer than say 1/500 of a second. so lets say you're going to take a picture of a horse running, If I were to take the picture at 1/4 of a second the horse would be a complete blur, but if I bumped up my shutter speed to 1/500 of a second the horse would look like it was frozen in it's tracks.

Now lets make this like stirred mud. All of these settings work in conjunction with each other and here's how.
ISO controls sensitivity
Aperture Controls Depth of Field
Shutter Speed controls movement but they all control light. They actually work in hand with each other. You have to figure out prior to taking your pictures what is the most important to you, Is it movement or depth of field.

For an example, lets say that I am taking a picture of your pen on a table. I would say the most important thing to me is the depth of Field ( you want as much of it in focus).

So #1 important setting is the aperture.

I want to control how much will be in focus. So I would set the camera in Aperture priority so I can control the aperture and let the camera control the other two.

I am the type that doesn't want my camera to have control so I set the camera on Manual. I don't want to have a pixelated picture so I would set the ISO to it's lowest setting (mine is 80) and then I would set the aperture to F 16, I want a lot to be in focus.

At this setting I may come out with a dark picture, right?
Well not if make my cameras shutter stay open longer, Say for a second. The light has a chance to build.


All of the settings have a give and take, If I need to take a picture in a dark room i'm going to want to set the ISO higher it will be grainier but it will take less light to take the photograph.

I could open the aperture all the way to F 2.8 and keep the ISO at 100 but I may have to set the shutter speed to 1/30 a second and that wouldn't be good if the subject was moving. So by this example the picture would be less grainy, it would have a very narrow depth of focus and if the subject is moving it would be blurry.

If I would simply bump up the ISO to 400 and leave the aperture at F 2.8 I could speed up the shutter to 1/250 of a second. The picture would have the exact same exposure except it would be grainer and the subject would be frozen. it's all a give and take.

Try this take a picture of someone blowing out a candle, put your camera on a tripod or a solid surface that won't move,

#1 set your camera to ISO 100, aperture f 5.6 and your shutter speed to 1/15 of a second.

#2 Then change your settings to ISO 400 and your shutter speed to 1/60 of a second aperture F 5.6 .

#3 set your camera to ISO 100, aperture f 2.8 and shutter speed to 1/250 of a second.

All three are the same exposure.

As for the white balance I would need to know what make and model you have and I can tell you how to set your white balance. This is a lot to take in up to this point, but I know you will be able to tackle this.

Take a look at my attached pics all are taken at the same exposure but with different depth of focus.

I guess I'll do like some have mentioned and just take the pic and it comes out how it comes out. Just not worth the aggrivation.


Dont give up yet.
 

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I'd tell you how I take my pictures, but then I'd have to kill you.:biggrin:.. you'd be laughing at me and making fun of me..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Actually, I put a white cloth over the computer monitor (a flat screen) and spread it in front of the monitor relatively flat, then lay the pens on the cloth. I'm no photographer, but this seems to work for me.

My lighting is a florescent tube under the cabinet over my desk and the flash on the camera... the light is about 18 inches above the desk.
I set the ISO at 200 I think, set the white balance for florescent, put the camera on a tripod so I'm not touching it, set the macro on and shoot from about 18-24 inches back...
I'm trying for a pure white background with the pen appearing to just float in the what background...
I get about 90% of what I want... my camera is a Fuji Finepix S5200,
a cast off from my step son from when he upgraded to his Nikon series...

I have a full light tent, but seem to get better pictures using the desk...
 
The pen looks pretty nice. The problem I have is the BRIGHT white background makes my eyes water.

Try reshooting it on grey background and see how you like it.

GK
 
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