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Well Windows 10 is coming to an end and will stop being supported. My question is how hard is it to switch to Windows 11. What are the do's and dont's? Windows was loaded on my computer when I bought it but stuck with Windows 10 for as long as I could. I heard there were growing pains with 11. Have they worked those out? I do not have a hard drive to back up any info right now. Should I get one? What could go wrong when downloading Windows11 and making the switch? Thanks.
 
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Windows 10 will still operate just fine. It just will not get updates anymore. That includes any security updates.
Doing the upgrade is relatively painless........Provided your computer is Windows 11 compliant. I had to upgrade my mainboard (Motherboard, new RAM and an SSD) in order to comply with the Trusted Platform Module (TPM2)) requirement. If your computer has TPM2 then you are pretty much ready to go. Just use the upgrade option through control panel and your computer will do the rest. There really is no need to back up your hard drive unless you have paranoid tendencies. Us the option to not format the drive when you are going through the installation process.
Steps to Upgrade From Win10 to Win11
There are ways to upgrade without meeting the requirements and there are a lot of youtube videos on how to do that.
Upgrade Unsupported Win10 to Win11
Of course you could always take the computer to a local PC shop and ask them to do it.
 
Windows 10 will still operate just fine. It just will not get updates anymore. That includes any security updates.
Doing the upgrade is relatively painless........Provided your computer is Windows 11 compliant. I had to upgrade my mainboard (Motherboard, new RAM and an SSD) in order to comply with the Trusted Platform Module (TPM2)) requirement. If your computer has TPM2 then you are pretty much ready to go. Just use the upgrade option through control panel and your computer will do the rest. There really is no need to back up your hard drive unless you have paranoid tendencies. Us the option to not format the drive when you are going through the installation process.
Steps to Upgrade From Win10 to Win11
There are ways to upgrade without meeting the requirements and there are a lot of youtube videos on how to do that.
Upgrade Unsupported Win10 to Win11
Of course you could always take the computer to a local PC shop and ask them to do it.
I just checked and I do have that platform. I was also able to extend the security updates for 1 year on Windows 10 for free. I did that.
 
My computer updated to Windows 11 a couple of years ago. I still don't know if that was something that Microsoft forced, or if it was something that I did because I didn't know what I was doing. But regardless, I've found Windows 11 to be not significantly different from Windows 10.
 
@Mortalis gave you good info. If you have a Windows 11 compatible machine, the upgrade is pretty straightforward. But as also said, you don't have to do it, and since you got the 1 year of security updates - which quite honestly is the most important part of the upgrade - you should be good to go. Make sure you also have a good anti-virus/anti-malware application running on your machine as well like BitDefender which is pretty inexpensive or free depending on what you use. For what it's worth, I recommend their Total Security option - it covers a few devices in one license.

Kevin
 
My machine is a 7 year old Lenovo Carbon X1 was not eligible according to Windows update. So I found a youtube
on how to do the manual update. Took a few hours. And I have been good for almost 2 months now.
 
My windows 10 desktop keeps popping up with the win11 stuff all the time. When I check compatibility, it says my pc is not compatible. It's an older solid state drive Asus that works better and faster than any of my former pc's. I think I'll just leave it as is. I basically just use it for documents. I have a win11 laptop. Using it looks no different than my win10 computer.
 
I subscribe to an online newsletter by Leo Notenboom called "Ask Leo" - He writes on a large variety of topics related to computers, cyber security, software, backing up your computer, etc.

He just published a newsletter yesterday regarding whether or not to upgrade to Windows 11. You may find it interesting. Here is a link to the newsletter:

 
I subscribe to an online newsletter by Leo Notenboom called "Ask Leo" - He writes on a large variety of topics related to computers, cyber security, software, backing up your computer, etc.

He just published a newsletter yesterday regarding whether or not to upgrade to Windows 11. You may find it interesting. Here is a link to the newsletter:

Thanks for that link. Very interesting. Being I did the free update security thing for a year I will stick with 10 and see down the road. I do have the option as I said. It is on my computer. Thanks all.
 
My I ask how you did the free security update for 1 year ?
Went to Windows PC Health Check app. Opened that and then went to windows update and it listed that I was eligible for the free 1 year security updates. Clicked yes and that was done. Just went to check now and it says I am good to go. Not sure if that is how it always works.
 
Ya, I was able to get security updates for another year thru pc health also.
The only thing that shows my pc not compatible with win11 is my processor. Which of course looks like is just a little more technical than I am with computers. Lol
 
I do not have a hard drive to back up any info right now. Should I get one?
John; YES, AND RIGHT NOW! How upset would you be if you lost all the data on your computer? Records, photos, your emails, contact lists, the list goes on.
I backup everything on my computer every two weeks. I used to do it weekly. Only needed it ONCE and was so glad I had it!
 
There really is no need to back up your hard drive unless you have paranoid tendencies.
I worked in computer programming / networking / security all my working life. Paranoia was a job skill! Before I update any program I make a backup of all its data files. If I do major updates backup EVERYTHING!

Backups helped when one of the hard drives in my computer failed and corrupted every data file it read or updated.

I went into the (work) computer center on a Sunday to apply updates to some of our servers. About a 3 hour job. Well, my security card did not work. When my co-worker arrived his card didn't work. Called head of computer center. His card didn't work! NO ONES card would work until someone who worked in the center for many years was able to open the door(s). The security company had upgraded our system over the weekend and the only backup of the security card files was many years old. It was a nightmare as people had to "buzz in" and the operators had to open the doors manually and the security system files had to be rebuilt by people asking, "Why can't I get into XXXXXX?"
 
I worked in computer programming / networking / security all my working life. Paranoia was a job skill! Before I update any program I make a backup of all its data files. If I do major updates backup EVERYTHING!

Backups helped when one of the hard drives in my computer failed and corrupted every data file it read or updated.

I went into the (work) computer center on a Sunday to apply updates to some of our servers. About a 3 hour job. Well, my security card did not work. When my co-worker arrived his card didn't work. Called head of computer center. His card didn't work! NO ONES card would work until someone who worked in the center for many years was able to open the door(s). The security company had upgraded our system over the weekend and the only backup of the security card files was many years old. It was a nightmare as people had to "buzz in" and the operators had to open the doors manually and the security system files had to be rebuilt by people asking, "Why can't I get into XXXXXX?"
I loved your comment- 'Paranoia was a job skill'!!! So true, and glad to hear it's just not me! Your working background is very similar to mine in the space - and my operating methods are always plan for failure - so backup everything, usually on different medias. It has saved my butt more times than I can say. I also highly recommend anyone using a computer or intelligent device to always do regular backups - why risk losing things you cherish when protecting them is cheap and easy. The cost of backup drives has dropped to almost negligible amounts of money per MB and most are sold with pretty good backup applications on them to do everything automatically for you. Cloud backups are also good, but again that paranoia thing raises it's ugly head, so I do use them but prefer doing my own on my own media.

Good luck!

Kevin
 
I worked in computer programming / networking / security all my working life. Paranoia was a job skill! Before I update any program I make a backup of all its data files. If I do major updates backup EVERYTHING!

Backups helped when one of the hard drives in my computer failed and corrupted every data file it read or updated.

I went into the (work) computer center on a Sunday to apply updates to some of our servers. About a 3 hour job. Well, my security card did not work. When my co-worker arrived his card didn't work. Called head of computer center. His card didn't work! NO ONES card would work until someone who worked in the center for many years was able to open the door(s). The security company had upgraded our system over the weekend and the only backup of the security card files was many years old. It was a nightmare as people had to "buzz in" and the operators had to open the doors manually and the security system files had to be rebuilt by people asking, "Why can't I get into XXXXXX?"
When I was working I could afford to run out and buy a new hard drive simply to use as a back up drive but now, since I am retired, am not fiscally able to this as easily anymore. I do believe many on this forum are in the same situation. It's not that I dont believe in backing up computers but perhaps some helpful information would be good. You apparently have a lot of knowledge in this topic.
Can you recommend a reasonable and inexpensive method for backing up a personal computer?
 
I loved your comment- 'Paranoia was a job skill'!!! So true, and glad to hear it's just not me! Your working background is very similar to mine in the space - and my operating methods are always plan for failure - so backup everything, usually on different medias. It has saved my butt more times than I can say. I also highly recommend anyone using a computer or intelligent device to always do regular backups - why risk losing things you cherish when protecting them is cheap and easy. The cost of backup drives has dropped to almost negligible amounts of money per MB and most are sold with pretty good backup applications on them to do everything automatically for you. Cloud backups are also good, but again that paranoia thing raises it's ugly head, so I do use them but prefer doing my own on my own media.

Good luck!

Kevin
I was typing a reply to @randyrls that included the use of OneDrive and GoogleDrive but changed my response while you were typing and sending yours. Although these are not absolute solutions they are an option and most are active without the lay man computer user even knowing (on by default basically) they are on. All of my photos are on GoogleDrive which you get automatically when you create a Gmail account and/or use an android device for communications. OneDrive is set up by default as your 'My Documents' folder and most dont even realize it.
 
I was typing a reply to @randyrls that included the use of OneDrive and GoogleDrive but changed my response while you were typing and sending yours. Although these are not absolute solutions they are an option and most are active without the lay man computer user even knowing (on by default basically) they are on. All of my photos are on GoogleDrive which you get automatically when you create a Gmail account and/or use an android device for communications. OneDrive is set up by default as your 'My Documents' folder and most dont even realize it.
I also suggest trying USB memory sticks. They are cheap, hold a lot of data, and are pretty dependable. Amazon typically sells card that can hold over 1 GB for under $20. If you use 2 or 3 at a time, you can do a rotating backup plan that mimics most good backup recommendations. Do a weekly backup, using #1 for the first week, the second for the second week, and so on. You can then restore a machine that is corrupted with a 'pre-corruption' USB stick and lose nothing. The sticks often have the backup software on the for free - Sandisk is one that does.

Kevin
 
I will second the request for the computer geeks to help us non geeks. What is a good way to back things up that is easy and does not require a degree to operate. One person is saying flashdrives while others say hard drives. Years ago I bought a device called One Drive I believe from QVC that was basically a hard drive. It was able to back your computer up any time you plugged it in. It would just pick up where you left off each time if you added things. It worked great. But it is not compatible to any of the new computers. I would like something like that.
 
I will second the request for the computer geeks to help us non geeks. What is a good way to back things up that is easy and does not require a degree to operate. One person is saying flashdrives while others say hard drives. Years ago I bought a device called One Drive I believe from QVC that was basically a hard drive. It was able to back your computer up any time you plugged it in. It would just pick up where you left off each time if you added things. It worked great. But it is not compatible to any of the new computers. I would like something like that.
Hey JT - So, storage progress has went from massive, low density mechanically spinning disks to much more dense spinning drives, to solid state drives. Most commercial large scale installations still employee mechanical disk drives as they are still the industry standard, but they are very fragile and if jostled, banged, or god forbid experience a power failure while the metal heads are in motion over the spinning drive, they are pretty easy to destroy. Solid state drives (SSD) have evolved over the last bunch of years to the point that pretty much any computer sold today has solid state drives (SSD) in it. They are high density (typically 2-4 TB), durable, and fairly low in cost. You can buy cheapo USB sticks and use a few of them like I said and get a pretty good backup solution, or you can purchase much higher end ruggedized solid state drives - some even sold at Costco - typically in the $100-150 range like these - Costco SSD drives for sale .

As previously stated, I'm also a retired programmer and data security wonk and have the crazy paranoia the field brought to anyone working in the field, like @randyrls . I use a cloud backup service, a ruggedized SSD drive for daily backups, and USB sticks for file or picture shares - total overkill! Someplace in my attic is a set of Seagate mechanical drives as well that I keep as archival backup.....yup, crazy! They rarely come out of the attic these days because they are truly antiquated technology compared to current SSD's.

Find a solution that works for you - try and automate it as much as you can, and check it on a bi-monthly basis. You will be happy when something breaks and you loose nothing.
 
Former computer engineer at IBM. I spent 39 years total. I will never use cloud backup. I have my own personal NAS (Network Attached Storage) that I have on my wireless network. i.e. no wires or cables. Synology NAS, I installed 2 Solid state drives. Synology provides redundant (RAID) reliability. I turn it off when I am not doing backups. Cant imagine a more secure and reliable was to do backups. YMMV.

The bad part about anything computer technical is you have to be an expert to do anything. I thought I was done with that bullshit linux. Took up 3D printing and it has forced me into Linux again, and a lot deeper than i care to be.
 
I usually only backup all my documents and important downloads. I have multiple folders in one main folder of all my stuff. I keep a 128gb usb thumb drive just for backing everything up. I just put the thumb drive in the usb computer port and just drag everything I want to save into the thumb drive. Simple as that.
 
I also should have added, I dont use backup programs. They f'd me more than once. I keep everything I want in a folder called "personal", and my backup method is to rename the backup copy, and then i just copy the entire folder to the backup drive, like bsshog40 said!
 
Former computer engineer at IBM. I spent 39 years total. I will never use cloud backup. I have my own personal NAS (Network Attached Storage) that I have on my wireless network. i.e. no wires or cables. Synology NAS, I installed 2 Solid state drives. Synology provides redundant (RAID) reliability. I turn it off when I am not doing backups. Cant imagine a more secure and reliable was to do backups. YMMV.

The bad part about anything computer technical is you have to be an expert to do anything. I thought I was done with that bullshit linux. Took up 3D printing and it has forced me into Linux again, and a lot deeper than i care to be.

I also have a NAS, hardwired, Cat6 (dual connection). Synology DS220+ with a pair of Western Digital Red Pro NAS 12TB drives in a Raid 1 (mirror).
 
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