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Chriscb

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Morning all,
I'm not often excited about acrylics but this an exception. Cast by Jim Knapp of LumberJimStudios on Etsy, it's described as 'Fire and Ashes'. In it's raw state it looks ordinary, but turn it down and the colours jump out. (And yeh - I know, it's actually Alumilite!)
Clearly my design was to line up the colours cap to barrel, but the section lining up as well was a surprise - I didn't plan that!

Thoughts?

As ever, critiques please.

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Very nice...all 3. There appears to be a thin slice of a different material just behind the cap threads on the barrel. Is there or is that some kind of light reflection in the photograph? If yes, is there a reason? Just curious. Well done and thanks for sharing.
Do a good turn daily!
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Looks great to me, though that lighting doesn't seem to do them justice.

You do lovely work.

It can be really tricky trying to capture nuance in pen blanks with photos.
 

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As they say eye of the beholder. Does not do it for me. The pen design looks nice but again not into that type pen. You asked for critique, sorry.
 

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Looks great to me, though that lighting doesn't seem to do them justice.

You do lovely work.

It can be really tricky trying to capture nuance in pen blanks with photos.

Thanks - and yes photographs can be a poor substitute for eyes on the subject. The blank has great depth and colour.
 

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Very nice...all 3. There appears to be a thin slice of a different material just behind the cap threads on the barrel. Is there or is that some kind of light reflection in the photograph? If yes, is there a reason? Just curious. Well done and thanks for sharing.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
Thanks - and yes I've used a spacer between the cap and barrel to act as a natural break in the pattern. A pen with a mis-matched grain or pattern jars the eyes - at least it does for me.
 

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Hey - don't be sorry. All views welcome. How could I improve the design?
I am sorry I just do not do kitless pens so not sure what can and can not be done shape wise. But pens that are straight sticks do not appeal to me. Add some shape to it and make the end 45 degree instead of flat across. Add some segmenting of the ends changing colors by adding straight one color to accent when using multicolored blanks. Things like this if possible. I always suggest and this is with people who turn kit blanks too to look at the professional well branded named pens, both custom and kit. look at the styles and the shapes they use. They have been making pens longer than anyone here and sell way more so they must be doing something right. That is where I try to get inspiration and ideas. The web is loaded with examples. Now I maybe way off base here but it is just my 2 cents. I see too many of these style pens posted here and yes they are kitless but I expect to see more creative design I guess. I maybe Jaded and way off base here as I said and I apologize but again you asked. Take care and good luck.
 

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A beautiful trio. I would not change a thing. I agree that the blanks are very nice, but may not show the depth of the colors easily. Thanks for sharing your artistry. 👏 👏
 

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I am sorry I just do not do kitless pens so not sure what can and can not be done shape wise. But pens that are straight sticks do not appeal to me. Add some shape to it and make the end 45 degree instead of flat across. Add some segmenting of the ends changing colors by adding straight one color to accent when using multicolored blanks. Things like this if possible. I always suggest and this is with people who turn kit blanks too to look at the professional well branded named pens, both custom and kit. look at the styles and the shapes they use. They have been making pens longer than anyone here and sell way more so they must be doing something right. That is where I try to get inspiration and ideas. The web is loaded with examples. Now I maybe way off base here but it is just my 2 cents. I see too many of these style pens posted here and yes they are kitless but I expect to see more creative design I guess. I maybe Jaded and way off base here as I said and I apologize but again you asked. Take care and good luck.
Thank for taking the time to share your thoughts. Valuable insights from a turner who has oodles of experience. You clearly are very adept at segmenting - stunning pens that you've posted.
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I am sorry I just do not do kitless pens so not sure what can and can not be done shape wise. But pens that are straight sticks do not appeal to me. Add some shape to it and make the end 45 degree instead of flat across. Add some segmenting of the ends changing colors by adding straight one color to accent when using multicolored blanks. Things like this if possible. I always suggest and this is with people who turn kit blanks too to look at the professional well branded named pens, both custom and kit. look at the styles and the shapes they use. They have been making pens longer than anyone here and sell way more so they must be doing something right. That is where I try to get inspiration and ideas. The web is loaded with examples. Now I maybe way off base here but it is just my 2 cents. I see too many of these style pens posted here and yes they are kitless but I expect to see more creative design I guess. I maybe Jaded and way off base here as I said and I apologize but again you asked. Take care and good luck.

While I think the pen is well done in its own right...and the blank is beautiful! I also appreciate JT's insights here.

I've been watching kitless makers and videos and live sessions on making kitless pens. It is something I'm quite interested in. That said, I do think there is so much room and many paths to explore personal uniqueness with kitless, that is all too seldom taken. Sometimes simplicity rules and you can make a phenomenal pen that is strait and simple. I don't know that I have explicit advice to offer, but, maybe multiple materials, different for say finials, center bands, sleeves, etc. might help increase the unique beauty of your pens.

I really love a kitless pen that uses multiple materials, different for finial and sleeve, I like seeing metal bands and clips, etc. All of those things give you room to present your unique style.
 

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Thank for taking the time to share your thoughts. Valuable insights from a turner who has oodles of experience. You clearly are very adept at segmenting - stunning pens that you've posted.
Chriscb
Chris, have to say you are actually a breathe of fresh air. The pen you present and blank used and your means of making need to be celebrated and then you ask for critiques tells me you are really interested in taking your love for the kitless world of pen making serious. Honesty is a means or tool of helping you achieve this and I believe you are on the right path. Gathering others thoughts can help along the way. I really do not like doing this but it was your wording of the request that struck me and said lets go for it. you took my thoughts and hopefully with no malice to help in your request. As I said the kitless world of pen making is an aspect that I have no desire to jump into. I marvel at some of the top kitless pen makers here that combine other skills to make their pens outstanding. I do what I do because it is what makes me enjoy the hobby. we as a forum share our ideas and hopefully there is crossover in the various fields of pen making and we carry them on for future members. So again my intentions and words were purely thoughts out loud and thanks for accepting as gracious as you did. Hope to see more of your work as you continue down this path.
 

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Thank you for sharing Chris, I really like the pen, the shape and the blank.
But what I am MOST excited about is that I have on of Jim's "Fire and Ashes" blanks in my "to do" drawer in my shop. 😉
 

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Chris, was looking at these again. Noticed your nibs. One of them, appears to either be copper, or maybe rose gold? Curious where you found those. I've seen steel and gold and even black nibs. Don't know that I've ever seen one in copper or rose gold.
 

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Chris, was looking at these again. Noticed your nibs. One of them, appears to either be copper, or maybe rose gold? Curious where you found those. I've seen steel and gold and even black nibs. Don't know that I've ever seen one in copper or rose gold.
Yes, the nib is Rose Gold - Beaufortink.co.uk stock them as well as a good range of unusual Bock nibs. I always match the nib to the pen rather than stick a gold one on everything.
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Chris, have to say you are actually a breathe of fresh air. The pen you present and blank used and your means of making need to be celebrated and then you ask for critiques tells me you are really interested in taking your love for the kitless world of pen making serious. Honesty is a means or tool of helping you achieve this and I believe you are on the right path. Gathering others thoughts can help along the way. I really do not like doing this but it was your wording of the request that struck me and said lets go for it. you took my thoughts and hopefully with no malice to help in your request. As I said the kitless world of pen making is an aspect that I have no desire to jump into. I marvel at some of the top kitless pen makers here that combine other skills to make their pens outstanding. I do what I do because it is what makes me enjoy the hobby. we as a forum share our ideas and hopefully there is crossover in the various fields of pen making and we carry them on for future members. So again my intentions and words were purely thoughts out loud and thanks for accepting as gracious as you did. Hope to see more of your work as you continue down this path.
Evening,
Umm.. you make some interesting points, and thank you for the compliments. You are correct in that when I ask for a critique, it is what I want. Guess it goes back to my photography where at exhibitions my images were always 'judged' as a matter of course.

So no, no malice noted in your remarks. If anything it has made me look at my raison d'être as a pen maker. And that has been a useful exercise.

Looking at the work of other pen makers on this and other sites was indeed the first step I made a few years back. I quickly realised that to get noticed I had to be different from the other pen makers around rather than copying them. A unique selling point I guess.

I made a conscious decision not to go down the clip route, because frankly the market is saturated, both by pen makers here and the commercial makers such as Conklin and Cross et al. I wanted to target the customers who wanted a unique handmade pen, using interesting material and high quality nibs, rather than buying a mass produced pen that has no heart.

Over the last 3 weeks I have been selling at 4 Christmas fairs, where my 'sticks' or pens have sold very well indeed, out selling my kit (and clipped) pens two to one.

After the holidays I will indeed design and turn some pens that have 'some shape' to them, but alas I will not be giving them 45 degree ends - a cut too far!

Regards,
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Very nice pens. I was told a few years ago that fountain pens are making a come-back. Young people are writing as texting or emails are very impersonal.
Cheers.
 
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