I agree that this issue will never end or be, in "Harmony" with everyone, after all, it doesn't need to be, regardless what anyone may think or want so, the interpretation of such word "kitless", in the world of pen making to me is like this;
Definition of a pen kit, using common sense:- a number of pen making parts purchased in a single package or a number of parts bought separately as part of a particular pen kit...!
*- Is the pen you made come from a "kit"...???
*- Is there a "kit" for that particular pen...???
If the answer is NO to each or both of these questions then, the pen you made is, "kitless"...!:wink:
You can complicate things as much as you want, that is not going to change what the word "kitless" is the pen making world is suppose to mean or what some want it to mean. Either way, if is there a definition to the word that makes any sense, I have already told you what that is...!
However, and being perfectly aware that some will disagree with me, that is irrelevant nor is going to provide the answer some may want to hear but, with all due respect, why do people tend to complicate things...???
I believe in the KSS principle, it has helped me considerably in the pass...!!!
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Cheers
George