Daniel
Member
I have spent the last couple of weeks crunching numbers for a Rizheng group buy. Basically I have been trying to nail down a per item price that includes shipping. my problem is that there is a three tier price change going on. 1. for each item ordered the cost of it changes Example: to order 1 slimline it would cost $22.00 to order two they would cost $11.50 each. now that is as extreme of an example as I can get but you get the idea. but even with larger quantities that price quickly varies by 20 cents. 2. they do have a quantity discount to there pricing, at best this is only a few cents and is not really much concern. 3. as an order reaches each half kg weight. the shipping charge relative to each item drops.(sort of) the cost of a slimline if exactly 45 where being ordered would be $1.62 each but if one more is added to the order the price jumps back up to $1.91 ea.
sort of shows why this is taking so long.
I know all this is complicated but please take the time to stay with me.
Basically price from Rizheng is determined by the weight of the total order. What I want to know from the group is should I set prices according to a low total weight (means higher prices but smaller orders can be placed) or a higher weight limit (lower prices but orders will take longer to reach the weight limit) as a frame of reference the tentative orders mannie got just on the forums weighed over 17kg.
Examples:
Slimline at 1kg weight $1.63 at 3kg $1.40
comfort pen 1kg weight $1.93 at 3kg $1.69
Cigar pen 1kg weight $3.39 at 3kg $2.96
Pen Mill set 1kg weight 11.97 at 3kg 10.38
Acrylic Blank 1kg weight $3.04 at 3kg $2.30
These prices do not include postage or pay pal fees.
If you do not want to post on the forum but think you will participate in the group buys in the future. please e-mail me I will keep any opinions confidential. and all opinions are welcome.
A bit of explaination as to why weight is the determining factor.
due to Rizhengs shipping charges an order that weighs half a kg costs $42.00 per kg in shipping alone. but an order that weighs 1 kg costs only $27.70 per kg. an order that weighs 10 kg costs $14.83 per kg. and the price per kg keeps falling the larger the order gets. keep in mind that a kg weighs about 2 pounds so this compaires to U.S.P.S at being $7.42 per pound from China. the shipping does not look bad if the order is large enough.
Mannie started a group buy but it was aborted due to a price hike from Rizheng. Since then thay have also added more items to there web site. mainly pen parts, there are now 4 styles of stoppers, and a much larger selection of pen mills. I suspect more will be coming.
I asked Rizheng "Are these the same kits that P.S.I. sells". they did not say yes, but they made it clear they where not saying no. what they did say is that they did not want to upset the market for there agents. My translation, yes these are the same kits you buy from P.S.I. and others. there have been comments made on this group that both contradict this as well as support my opinion. I will make no claims as to the quality of any of the items as I have never seen any of them.
Provided there is an adequate response to this post, there will be much more info concerning Rizheng, the quality or lack of there products. and details on just how to structure Bulk Buys from this company.
I have been in contact with Mannie, and at this time we are both interested in still seeing a group buy happen. At this time we are not sure if he will do it, I will do it, or someone alse will step forward. basically I don't want anyone to think that I am walking all over Mannie with this.
well that is more than enough for now. sorry for this being so long. I tried to put it in a nut shell but seems i needed a coconut to do it.
sort of shows why this is taking so long.
I know all this is complicated but please take the time to stay with me.
Basically price from Rizheng is determined by the weight of the total order. What I want to know from the group is should I set prices according to a low total weight (means higher prices but smaller orders can be placed) or a higher weight limit (lower prices but orders will take longer to reach the weight limit) as a frame of reference the tentative orders mannie got just on the forums weighed over 17kg.
Examples:
Slimline at 1kg weight $1.63 at 3kg $1.40
comfort pen 1kg weight $1.93 at 3kg $1.69
Cigar pen 1kg weight $3.39 at 3kg $2.96
Pen Mill set 1kg weight 11.97 at 3kg 10.38
Acrylic Blank 1kg weight $3.04 at 3kg $2.30
These prices do not include postage or pay pal fees.
If you do not want to post on the forum but think you will participate in the group buys in the future. please e-mail me I will keep any opinions confidential. and all opinions are welcome.
A bit of explaination as to why weight is the determining factor.
due to Rizhengs shipping charges an order that weighs half a kg costs $42.00 per kg in shipping alone. but an order that weighs 1 kg costs only $27.70 per kg. an order that weighs 10 kg costs $14.83 per kg. and the price per kg keeps falling the larger the order gets. keep in mind that a kg weighs about 2 pounds so this compaires to U.S.P.S at being $7.42 per pound from China. the shipping does not look bad if the order is large enough.
Mannie started a group buy but it was aborted due to a price hike from Rizheng. Since then thay have also added more items to there web site. mainly pen parts, there are now 4 styles of stoppers, and a much larger selection of pen mills. I suspect more will be coming.
I asked Rizheng "Are these the same kits that P.S.I. sells". they did not say yes, but they made it clear they where not saying no. what they did say is that they did not want to upset the market for there agents. My translation, yes these are the same kits you buy from P.S.I. and others. there have been comments made on this group that both contradict this as well as support my opinion. I will make no claims as to the quality of any of the items as I have never seen any of them.
Provided there is an adequate response to this post, there will be much more info concerning Rizheng, the quality or lack of there products. and details on just how to structure Bulk Buys from this company.
I have been in contact with Mannie, and at this time we are both interested in still seeing a group buy happen. At this time we are not sure if he will do it, I will do it, or someone alse will step forward. basically I don't want anyone to think that I am walking all over Mannie with this.
well that is more than enough for now. sorry for this being so long. I tried to put it in a nut shell but seems i needed a coconut to do it.