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Ok, I am going to post this and take my lumps. My first pen was a total disaster and i am way too embarrassed to even think about posting pics of it here. Let's say that I made every conceivable rookie mistake possible. I managed to drill the holes just off enough to make the tubes a bit angled. I cut through one part to the tube and tried to repair it with sawdust and CA, not pretty. I put it together incorrectly and it doesn't work so overall, it was and is a complete disaster. My second attempt from earlier today turned out much better for the most part but I managed to drive the transmission in way too far and it doesn't work. It looks alright for the most part but not great. So, I am two pens into my new career and the most positive thing to come out of it is that I have now gone through the process from start to finish and learned a great deal through my mistakes. No matter what, I am going to stick to my guns and improve with each attempt until I am actually making functional pens. LOVE pen making and wood working and just can't get enough of it. Thanks for looking and for all the help that you guys and gals have given me. You are awesome!