2016 Bash -Freestyle Casting Contest

[Mr Vic]

Entries for the"Freestyle Casting Contest" will begin accepted starting Feb. 1, 2016 and will end Feb. 19, 2016 at 11:59pm Mountain Standard. NO EXCEPTIONS!

How to Enter:

You must use the entry form provided when submitting your blank/s. Any blank/s posted to this thread or anyone revealing their work will be disqualified.

Who Determines the Winners:

A members poll will be created for your peers to vote. Voting will begin on Feb. 21st until Feb. 24th at High Noon MST. The top 3 vote recipients will then be entered in the finalists poll which will begin Feb. 25th and end on Feb. 28 at11:59 pm EST. The winners will be revealed Feb. 29th. Yup it's "Leap Day".

All contestants must comply with the Universal Contest Rules in addition to the following rules.

Rules for the Freestyle Casting Contest:

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank using one or more of many casting techniques. You may attach an object or objects to a brass tube/s and then cast it in resin - or - you may cast your item/s then drill the blank and glue in the tube.

2 - The objects you attach or cast can be made by any means. Once cast they may only be turned on a lathe to final dimensions.
3 – Your creation may be one blank for a single body style or two for a double body or body and cap style pen.
4 - This contest is about creating a blank/s and not a finished pen. Blanks must be turned and finished to final dimensions ready for assembly.
5 - Each submission must photographed with the bushings in place. Either paint your bushings black or white or turn mock bushings from a black or white material.
6 - To enter the contest you must use the entry form given. You may submit a maximum of 3 photographs.
7 - Your submission must include brief description of the materials and process used in the creation of the blank.
8 - Photographs should be on a plane background without props of any sort. A clear plastic pen stand is acceptable. Remember that you will be judged based on your photographs submitted.

Prizes

First: TBD
Second: TBD
Third: TBD

If there are any questions or concerns about your entry please contact me via PM

 

[Cwalker935]

The casting contest/polymer clay contest states: "1. The blanks for this contest are to be made with resin or made of Polyclay (there is a different contest for "tube on" or embedded resin blanks)." I raised this question in that thread:

I am a little confused by the reference to embedded resin blanks. Would embedded castings of pine cones, sweet gum balls, coffee beans etc. not be allowed? They are embedded castings but not tube on castings.

And received this response:

I was told that putting things like coffee beans, pine cones, etc. in would be considered tube on and not allowed in this category. Now you probably should verify that with the person running the tube on contest.

Curt

With that response and the above rules, my conclusion is that neither contest would allow casting pine cones, coffee beans, sweet gum balls, etc unless they were clued on to a tube before casting. Is that correct?

 

[mredburn]

The original intention was for the casting/pc contest to be color only, this contest is for the rest. It should probably be renamed to include cast in, tube on, or embeded.
I will let Vic answer for himself, but this is why we post the rules so such things can be ironed out in the process.

 

[Mr Vic]

The original thought was attach whatever to a tube and then cast it in resin. If you want to drill out a pine cone and glue it to a tube you would meet the requirements.

So, I didn't say in what order to make the blank so I guess, if you send me $1.00 you could caste then glue instead of gluing then casting.

If you don't mind I'd like some member input before I make a final decision. Ultimately the membership will vote. Will a pinecone blank stand up to a Seiko Digital Watch blank?

 

[Dale Lynch]

No,probably not.I do think that poly clay shoud be put here.Most of the poly clay blanks with flowers,birds,fish are built up on the tube in layers.The pine cone or otherembedded objects that are cast first and then tubed should be in the other casting contest.

 

[Brian G]

I'd rather see this contest be renamed, as Mike suggested, to include cast in, tube on, or embedded; this covers all varieties of mixed media.

I agree with Dale that polymer clay fits here better than in the other casting contest, even though PC blanks aren't typically cast in resin. I'll disagree that anything embedded, cast, and then tubed belongs in the other casting contest.

Limit the other casting contest to resin and color only.

 

[Mr Vic]

Okay Gents, correct me if I'm misinterpreting you responses. Dale and Brian are of the opinion that we should allow any material attached to the tube and it can be cast in resin but need not be as in the case of PC. So the intent is to build up on the tube as opposed to creating a blank in whatever manner and then drilling and gluing the tube in.

 

[magpens]

I am lacking in some definition here.

What is the difference between tube in, tube on, cast in, and embedded ?

 

[Bob Wemm]

It seems to me that this contest is "STRICTLY" for attaching objects to the bare tube and then casting.
If that is the case then we need a completely new Contest for casting objects into a blank, then drilling and attaching etc.
OR,
combine the latter with the "Resin and Polymer" Contest.
JMHO.

Bob.

 

[Brian G]

Dale and Brian are of the opinion that we should allow any material attached to the tube and it can be cast in resin but need not be as in the case of PC. So the intent is to build up on the tube as opposed to creating a blank in whatever manner and then drilling and gluing the tube in.

I'm going by Mike's comment "The original intention was for the casting/pc contest to be color only, this contest is for the rest." I interpret that to mean resin and colorants, or PC wrapped around a tube.

Whatever else that involves casting would belong in this contest. Otherwise, where would something like worthless wood and resin go?

Ultimately, I don't have a strong opinion. I think resin and colorant only is a contest by itself.

It's all fun either way.

 

[Mr Vic]

So I pretty much adapted the rules from the prior contest. Mike, do we have the ability to split this into two contests?

1: Attach whatever to the tube ant then cast in resin

2: Cast what ever and then drill and tube.

Other wise we can rename to the "Freestyle Casting Contest."

 

[mredburn]

Renaming it to the Freestyle Casting contest is pretty easily done.
We probably need to add to rule 1 or rewrite or add to it.

 

[Mr Vic]

I'll work on a reword when I get home tonight. Thanks Mike..

 

[Mr Vic]

Okay, the flood gates are open. Do these changes to rules 1 and 2 make sense? Essentially if it's cast in some manner is enterable.

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank using one or more of many casting techniques. You may attach an object or objects to a brass tube/s and then cast it in resin - or - you may cast your item/s then drill the blank and glue in the tube.

2 - The objects you attach or cast can be made by any means. Once cast they may only be turned on a lathe to final dimensions.

 

[Bob Wemm]

That sounds very CLEAR to me.
Should solve all t5he issues.

Bob

 

[Brian G]

Looks like a good solution to me. Well done!

 

[Mr Vic]

I am lacking in some definition here.

What is the difference between tube in, tube on, cast in, and embedded ?

Mal, Didn't mean to ignore your question. I'm not positive of the answer.
I applies to whether you cast around the tube or cast then drill to glue the tube in. In either method you can add a solid material to the cast or even have it pre-attached to the tube before you cast that. Clear as mud? Hopefully the casting experts will shed light on the actual terminology.

 

[magpens]

Thank you, Vic. . Commonly used terminology can be confusing and even misleading at times. . I am sure I will get clarification, in time, perhaps during the Bash when I see the entries.

 

[Charlie69]

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank attaching an object or objects to a brass tube and then casting it in resin.

Does the object have to be attached to a brass tube? Or will a tube of any material be ok?

 

[mredburn]

Embedded refers to objects cast in the resin and then the cast blank is drilled and processed
into a pen. - coffee beans, pine cones. etc.
Tube on and Tube in are very close in description, I treat them as the same thing.
stamps, coins watch parts, snake skins. Anything attached to the tube and then cast into a blank with the tube already in the casting.

 

[Charlie69]

I'm looking for some clarity in rule #1

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank using one or more of many casting techniques. You may attach an object or objects to a brass tube/s and then cast it in resin - or - you may cast your item/s then drill the blank and glue in the tube.

The rule says it must be a brass tube. Would a tube made from a different material be allowed or is the contest limited to objects attached to a brass tube?

Thank you.

 

[Mr Vic]

I'm looking for some clarity in rule #1

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank using one or more of many casting techniques. You may attach an object or objects to a brass tube/s and then cast it in resin - or - you may cast your item/s then drill the blank and glue in the tube.

The rule says it must be a brass tube. Would a tube made from a different material be allowed or is the contest limited to objects attached to a brass tube?

Thank you.

To keep the playing field level for all entries, the tube must be brass. No carved sterling silver tubes cast in clear resin although that would be awesome.

 

[Mr Vic]

Embedded refers to objects cast in the resin and then the cast blank is drilled and processed
into a pen. - coffee beans, pine cones. etc.
Tube on and Tube in are very close in description, I treat them as the same thing.
stamps, coins watch parts, snake skins. Anything attached to the tube and then cast into a blank with the tube already in the casting.

Thanks Mike! Glad someone is around to keep me straight.

 

[Mr Vic]

Okay, the flood gates are open. Do these changes to rules 1 and 2 make sense? Essentially if it's cast in some manner is enterable.

1 - The object of the contest is to create a pen blank using one or more of many casting techniques. You may attach an object or objects to a brass tube/s and then cast it in resin - or - you may cast your item/s then drill the blank and glue in the tube.

2 - The objects you attach or cast can be made by any means. Once cast they may only be turned on a lathe to final dimensions.

Mike it appears I can't edit post 1 or any of my posts. Can you update rules 1 & 2 as listed above?

Also need to change the title in the message that in red.

Thanks

 

[mredburn]

Taken Care of.

 

[Mr Vic]

Taken Care of.

Thanks Mike!