Wood Butcher
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Ted iin Michigan said:A lot of passion shows in the comments here. For sure. I wasn't too thrilled with the guy's actions (was less thrilled by her's). But I'm thinking that I gotta be careful in supporting or condemning anything because I haven't walked in either's shoes. I'm also thinking that these situations have to be considered in context and whether or not she retaliates by taking his 1911 and blowing him away with it.
Personally, I don't like what he did. He "played her game" rather than setting the standard he wants her to follow. But, for real, I admire his doing an unpleasant task, even though he didn't want to do it or like doing it. He did't turn away and hope it would get better. Too much of that.
Bottom line - the proof is in the pudding. If she figures it out and/or if he thinks maybe he overdid a bit and they reach a workable relationship where they can laugh about it in 20 years then it'll be OK. If not, they'll just be another statistic about "estranged parents". And that won't be on Youtube.
If this is the only way he knows how to handle things, you better watch out or you could become that pc.
punishment must fit the 'crime'. My own daughter at age 15 decided to smart mouth her mother then storm into her room slamming the door and locking it. Now if it had been myself she had sassed, most likely nothing would have been said about it, but she was not going to get away treating her mother in such a manner. I was right behind her at the door and finding the door locked, I simply obtained my 'magic' key and let myself into her room much to her surprise.
I explained that she was not allowed to talk to her mother in such a manner and was to receive a spanking. Whereupon she tried her best to convince me she was way too old, at 15, to be spanked. Upon receiving an explanation about her residency condition, she then threatened to call the Sheriff and charge me with child abuse. That is when I handed her the phone and tole her to start calling, but by the time he arrived, the spanking would be over. Yes, I most likely would spend the night in jail, but she would be removed form the home with only what she would be wearing and her school books. Everything else in her room was mine, all the videos and equipment, game console and games, clothes, the list went on and on as it would for any 15 year old girl. I then told her, "Here is the phone. Go ahead and make the call then bend over my legs and take your spanking." I never had anything hurt me as much as spanking her did until my bride died years later. No she did not call the sheriff and she grew up to be a mother herself, graduated from university majoring in math and Spanish with a teaching job in the local high school.
No matter how much it pains a parent, when a threat/promise is made, if the infraction still occurs, that promise must be fulfilled. Otherwise, anything the parent says from then on is nothing more than hot air.
Did this father do right? None of us are qualified to even comment on that situation because we were not in his or her shoes for the entire time. My $0.02 and let the flames begin.
Charles
When I first followed the link and saw the video, I was like everyone else that has(had) teenage kids and could relate to it.
But then I started thinking.
My kids are deffinately no angels, but I'm proud to say that they are all products of their parents and the way we brought them up.
What exact lesson was learned by this girl?
From what I can gather, her and at least one brother have already been affected by their parents splitting ( Step mum mentioned ) and she is probably going through the most radical change her body and mind will ever make ( she is 15, you work it out )
Then this dope publically, and now globally, humiliates her.
Sure she was wrong big time, but I honestly think that he has damaged any relationship he may ever have with his daughter.
I would have been very hurt to discover that one of my kids had done that, but I would also be dissapointed with how I brought her up in the first place and therefore kept my mouth shut.
Just my 2p worth:wink:
Heard that one myself - they had just started the "child abuse hotline" in our county. One daughter threatened to "call the child abuse hotline"...I went and got the number, wrote it in big print and pasted it on the wall above the phone. I told them all they were welcome to call anytime they felt abused. I also told them if they did they'd get a chance to live in foster care and see what that was like because they'd be removed from the "abusive" home while social services investigated....punishment must fit the 'crime'. My own daughter at age 15 decided to smart mouth her mother then storm into her room slamming the door and locking it. Now if it had been myself she had sassed, most likely nothing would have been said about it, but she was not going to get away treating her mother in such a manner. I was right behind her at the door and finding the door locked, I simply obtained my 'magic' key and let myself into her room much to her surprise.
I explained that she was not allowed to talk to her mother in such a manner and was to receive a spanking. Whereupon she tried her best to convince me she was way too old, at 15, to be spanked. Upon receiving an explanation about her residency condition, she then threatened to call the Sheriff and charge me with child abuse. That is when I handed her the phone and tole her to start calling, but by the time he arrived, the spanking would be over. Yes, I most likely would spend the night in jail, but she would be removed form the home with only what she would be wearing and her school books. Everything else in her room was mine, all the videos and equipment, game console and games, clothes, the list went on and on as it would for any 15 year old girl. I then told her, "Here is the phone. Go ahead and make the call then bend over my legs and take your spanking." I never had anything hurt me as much as spanking her did until my bride died years later. No she did not call the sheriff and she grew up to be a mother herself, graduated from university majoring in math and Spanish with a teaching job in the local high school.
No matter how much it pains a parent, when a threat/promise is made, if the infraction still occurs, that promise must be fulfilled. Otherwise, anything the parent says from then on is nothing more than hot air.
Did this father do right? None of us are qualified to even comment on that situation because we were not in his or her shoes for the entire time. My $0.02 and let the flames begin.
Charles
He works for IT he should just disable the facebook page. They do it work and we can't get on.
When I first followed the link and saw the video, I was like everyone else that has(had) teenage kids and could relate to it.
But then I started thinking.
My kids are deffinately no angels, but I'm proud to say that they are all products of their parents and the way we brought them up.
What exact lesson was learned by this girl?
From what I can gather, her and at least one brother have already been affected by their parents splitting ( Step mum mentioned ) and she is probably going through the most radical change her body and mind will ever make ( she is 15, you work it out )
Then this dope publically, and now globally, humiliates her.
Sure she was wrong big time, but I honestly think that he has damaged any relationship he may ever have with his daughter.
I would have been very hurt to discover that one of my kids had done that, but I would also be dissapointed with how I brought her up in the first place and therefore kept my mouth shut.
Just my 2p worth:wink:
I just know that I should keep quiet on this, but I'm with Skip. I don't accept that two wrongs make a right. The girl by all appearances was wrong - big time. But, I believe that the Dad going public was just as bad.
When I was a kid (I'm 62 now.), we didn't have Facebook, so we just hung around outside the local store and bitched about our parents and how unfair life was in general. Now, kids have Facebook, but the messages are the same.
I believe that the father would have had a far better chance of actually changing things had he sat down in private with his daughter, told her how hurt he was by her actions and worked out fixing the longer term relationship.
I realize that my position comes from only what I've seen in this one video. I don't know the long history of this father/daughter relationship, but I can't see anything good at all coming from this video.
Everybody loses.
IMHO, I believe that most children (mine included) become numb to being grounded and sometimes need a little something extra to get the point across. A 1911 to a computer definately did that. This reminds me of how lucky I am to have access to automatic weapons and explosives. I'll have to put this in my memory bank for when my daughters get a little older and want to test their crazy dad.
Well my Mom and Dad smacked me when I needed it (not too often) - my teachers smacked me when I needed it, I smacked my kids when they needed it - and my kids and I all grew into pretty decent adults.When I first followed the link and saw the video, I was like everyone else that has(had) teenage kids and could relate to it.
But then I started thinking.
My kids are deffinately no angels, but I'm proud to say that they are all products of their parents and the way we brought them up.
What exact lesson was learned by this girl?
From what I can gather, her and at least one brother have already been affected by their parents splitting ( Step mum mentioned ) and she is probably going through the most radical change her body and mind will ever make ( she is 15, you work it out )
Then this dope publically, and now globally, humiliates her.
Sure she was wrong big time, but I honestly think that he has damaged any relationship he may ever have with his daughter.
I would have been very hurt to discover that one of my kids had done that, but I would also be dissapointed with how I brought her up in the first place and therefore kept my mouth shut.
Just my 2p worth:wink:
I just know that I should keep quiet on this, but I'm with Skip. I don't accept that two wrongs make a right. The girl by all appearances was wrong - big time. But, I believe that the Dad going public was just as bad.
When I was a kid (I'm 62 now.), we didn't have Facebook, so we just hung around outside the local store and bitched about our parents and how unfair life was in general. Now, kids have Facebook, but the messages are the same.
I believe that the father would have had a far better chance of actually changing things had he sat down in private with his daughter, told her how hurt he was by her actions and worked out fixing the longer term relationship.
I realize that my position comes from only what I've seen in this one video. I don't know the long history of this father/daughter relationship, but I can't see anything good at all coming from this video.
Everybody loses.
Yeah, me too. Guns are for hunting, not correcting a kid's behavior. That's almost as bad as smacking a kid.
IMHO, I believe that most children (mine included) become numb to being grounded and sometimes need a little something extra to get the point across. A 1911 to a computer definately did that. This reminds me of how lucky I am to have access to automatic weapons and explosives. I'll have to put this in my memory bank for when my daughters get a little older and want to test their crazy dad.
Please! You're kidding, right??????
And showing her that the problem can be taken care of with a gun is the right thing to do? And she just wrote some trash on facebook where she had it blocked from public view, she is wrong for what she did but he surely didn't set a better example. I think that entire family needs to seek some help, there is definetly a deeper problem than what is being shown on these videos.People around here are very upset with such abhorrent behavior by the father, personally
i think he did a good thing. His daughter publicly humiliated him, after raising, feeding, and clothing her for 15 years, the brat needs to learn about consequences.
I have to say that I would hate to see what his solution would be if the girl came home pregnant.
But he could tie a white bow around the bbl and have a formal wedding.:wink:I have to say that I would hate to see what his solution would be if the girl came home pregnant.
He'd have to use his shotgun then:tongue:
I saw a man destroy a piece of his own electronic equipment....he chose a method of destroying it. He could have used a sledge hammer and looked even more violent. He could have thrown it in the nearest river. I didn't see anything that indicated he had any intention at all of physically hurting the child, or that he wanted to.And showing her that the problem can be taken care of with a gun is the right thing to do? And she just wrote some trash on facebook where she had it blocked from public view, she is wrong for what she did but he surely didn't set a better example. I think that entire family needs to seek some help, there is definetly a deeper problem than what is being shown on these videos.People around here are very upset with such abhorrent behavior by the father, personally
i think he did a good thing. His daughter publicly humiliated him, after raising, feeding, and clothing her for 15 years, the brat needs to learn about consequences.
I have to say that I would hate to see what his solution would be if the girl came home pregnant.
Actually, she didn't publically humiliate him. She posted her rant to her facebook page and locked down the security setting so people she didn't want to read it couldn't. Her mistake was accidentally allowing the dog's facebook page to retain access. I see nothing wrong with a 15 year old kid ranting to his/her peer group.People around here are very upset with such abhorrent behavior by the father, personally
i think he did a good thing. His daughter publicly humiliated him, after raising, feeding, and clothing her for 15 years, the brat needs to learn about consequences.
Over and obver he stated that the laptop was hers.I saw a man destroy a piece of his own electronic equipment...
some people will continue to try and make the daughter out to be the victim. Thats the problem with people today. I dont care how wrong some may think the dad was for his method of destruction, thats his business, but in my mind, I do believe it wont be forgotten by his daughter, and maybe she will think twice about her actions and the consequences that may follow in regards to future decisions. Back in the day, when you acted up in school, you went to the principals office and got whipped with a paddle. Now they dont dare do that for fear of someone screaming child abuse, heaven forbid that we should teach our kids anything these days. And yet many may wonder why the prisons are overcrowded, cuz most of them(inmates) didnt get that proper a$$ whippin that they deserved when they were a kid, when they did wrong. But hey, im not a phsycologist so what do i know.
some people will continue to try and make the daughter out to be the victim. Thats the problem with people today. I dont care how wrong some may think the dad was for his method of destruction, thats his business, but in my mind, I do believe it wont be forgotten by his daughter, and maybe she will think twice about her actions and the consequences that may follow in regards to future decisions. Back in the day, when you acted up in school, you went to the principals office and got whipped with a paddle. Now they dont dare do that for fear of someone screaming child abuse, heaven forbid that we should teach our kids anything these days. And yet many may wonder why the prisons are overcrowded, cuz most of them(inmates) didnt get that proper a$$ whippin that they deserved when they were a kid, when they did wrong. But hey, im not a phsycologist so what do i know.