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Old 02-16-2018, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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1st post here. Below is a summary of what I have developed as a finishing process and am looking for some feedback as to how I can improve / change it.

Brand new to turning but this is what trial and error has taught me over the last week. Got my best results just last night. Two things have to be smooth. The wood and the CA. If the wood isnít baby butt smooth neither will the CA be. No amount of CA will make bumpy wood smooth. Like the old photographic analogy, you canít get a clear picture from a fuzzy negative.

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Sand from 80 to 600 using abranet. Donít skip grits.
Apply 3-4 coats of thin CA to fill any spaces (I might try Med CA for this part next time)
Sand back to 320 or wherever you need to to get rid of anything that is still shiny from the 1st coats of CA. Then you know itís smooth.
Sand back up to 600.
Wipe with slightly damp paper towel.
Apply 4-8 coats of thin CA. (some advocate for med CA for the final coats but I find it to be too hard to smooth out) Sand the CA to 600 again then use wet microfiber pads through 12K (Iíve found that the micro fiber pads wonít smooth the CA enough so thatís why I go over it with the 600)
Use EEE ultra shine abrasive wax (2xís if needed) (I tried using auto polishing compound but it didnít work as well as EEE)
Apply friction polish (DIY mix instead of $32.95 for Shellawax)

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Try this for simple CA finish
https://youtu.be/eL9T-H8Hfv8
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Try this for simple CA finish
https://youtu.be/eL9T-H8Hfv8
I like that. Looks fast, easy and high quality. Saves a few steps. Gotta find the plastic polish. I've seen it mentioned elsewhere.

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It's not my video but I use a liquid car polish. I think any car polish will work as long as you have a smooth CA finish.
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I have some Maguires PlastX at home. Folks seem to like that stuff too. Thanks.

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My brother says he uses headlight cleaner. Haven't tried it yet, myself, though.
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My brother says he uses headlight cleaner. Haven't tried it yet, myself, though.
Yeah. Everybody says it's the same stuff. Just polishes plastic. Thanks.
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Why are you applying a friction polish at the end?
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Why are you applying a friction polish at the end?
Cuz that seems to be the process that everyone suggests and is does take the finish to the next level over and above the plastic polish. The friction polish makes it smooth as glass.

Like I said, I'm new at this so my only knowledge base is what I have seen online.
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Brand new to turning but this is what trial and error has taught me over the last week. Got my best results just last night. Two things have to be smooth. The wood and the CA. If the wood isn’t baby butt smooth neither will the CA be. No amount of CA will make bumpy wood smooth. Like the old photographic analogy, you can’t get a clear picture from a fuzzy negative.
Trial and error, the best teacher!

Pick up tips from others as you are asking. Some work and some don't.

The reason some work and some don't, And, some methods work for one and not the other is that:
1. there are differences in some CAs
2. Temp and Humidity differences in different regions affect finishes and times.
3. Relative instructions - what is "sand softly to a 250LB man" is "sand moderately hard" to a 125lb person; what is a "few seconds" to one person is 30 to 40 seconds to another; Speed of lathe when sanding is relative also - some sand at 1500 and above and some sand at much less than 1000 rpm and some at 200 - 300 RPM.

How one person interprets the actions of another in following directions is highly relative without each other realizing it.

You have discovered what works for you; keep trying it until it is repeatable. Next, with the changing of seasons and humidity swings, you may notice (with experience) a difference in the curing times.

Next, read other methods, and try them on a simple plain wood pen blank, not for the purpose of making a pen but learning new methods. If pen turning stays with you for more than a couple of years, your expanded experience will enhance your finishing techniques. Don't be afraid to try other methods. But for now, work on getting one down and repeatable.

Great looking finishes on those two pens!
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