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Old 03-01-2016, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I have a customer that MAY be interested in 150-200 laser engraved Jr Gent II pens with a CA finish. I could do them, but it would take me about a year with the limited shop time I have. :(

So I wonder what some of you Georgia IAP folks might charge me, if I give you the tubes and the wood, to return turned and finished barrels (no assembly). And how many you could easily produce in a month or so.

For consistency in the product, I'll be using the Stickfast Wood Finishing CA kit, with one coat of thin and 5-6 coats of medium.

The customer may come to the April meeting to see some of your sample CA finishes, if you're interested.

Think about it, ask any questions. Not on a firm timeline, but looking at options.
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you're inviting a potential customer to a chapter meeting with other penturners?

sounds like a good way for someone to take your customer - unless you have a lot of trust in your chapter members.

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you're inviting a potential customer to a chapter meeting with other penturners?

sounds like a good way for someone to take your customer - unless you have a lot of trust in your chapter members.

From what I've heard most of them are all alright. There's one guy I'd keep him away from that lives up in Dawsonville though!


Steve I'd be about two years and have to go to the loony house with an order like that. Not sure which members are setup for that kind of volume but sounds like a pretty cool deal potentially.
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I would turn a dozen or so for you for free. It's therapy for me. I don't use Stickfast, but i have used . I use the Mercury Medium or EZ Bond medium. if interested just send me a PM.
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I'm just up the road in Chattanooga and am interested, unless this is a Georgia only offer.
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Wow, quick responses! Thanks, guys.

The customer is interested in the quality and consistency of the finish; that's why he was interested in seeing what folks are doing.

We're thinking a "divide and conquer" production strategy is the only way to crack this nut - if we can find a handful of guys that can do 10 or 20 or 30 sets, that might work. He's got a guy that does pens who can put a lower quality satin finish on it, but he really likes the CA glossy look. It takes me about 5 minutes per barrel to finish, using the Stickfast Wood Finish kit/process (of course, I still micromesh it after the 400 Abranet - old habits die hard!).

My value to this customer is the laser engraving, so I'm not real concerned about losing pen making to someone else.

So think about what you'd want pen set for:
(given wood and 10.5/12.5mm tubes (I maybe even throw in a CA Wood Finish pack - remember "consistency" )))
drill wood
glue to tubes
trim blanks
turn to Jr Gent II size
CA finish

I'll do the laser engraving and assembly.

BURLMAN, I think the post office still runs both ways, but we'd have to figure the shipping costs on top of the production cost to make sure we're in the wheelhouse.
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Steve,
Perhaps a way to look at it is to work backwards from your customer's cost per pen. How much do you want for your engraving and assembling, packaging and delivering to your customer. I would imagine that you'll have postage costs with GA pen turners as well. Do you foresee those being absorbed by you, potential turners, or your customer. My recommendation is to figure out your customer's cost per pen and subtract what you want your "take" to be and go from there. BTW I use EZ Bond for my CA finish (6 coat thin, 6 coats medium). Is using Stickfast a must?

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My take on it is false representation of your work. You did not make the pens. Turning and finishing a blank is all we have when doing kit pens. Assembling and engraving is nothing. Just another thought. Good luck.



Just a side question for my own curiosity. When a pen is engraved does the size of the blank matter in the set up??? Say one person turns the blank BtoB and another puts a belly in it. Does this throw the engraving off. ??? Never seen a pen engraved. Had a few engraved but i am a bushing to bushing guy and they had the same shape when engraved.
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My take on it is false representation of your work. You did not make the pens. Turning and finishing a blank is all we have when doing kit pens. Assembling and engraving is nothing. Just another thought. Good luck.



Just a side question for my own curiosity. When a pen is engraved does the size of the blank matter in the set up??? Say one person turns the blank BtoB and another puts a belly in it. Does this throw the engraving off. ??? Never seen a pen engraved. Had a few engraved but i am a bushing to bushing guy and they had the same shape when engraved.
I don't think it is false representation. The customer is going to see the finish of the other turners so he knows the OP is not doing all the work.
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My take on it is false representation of your work. You did not make the pens. Turning and finishing a blank is all we have when doing kit pens. Assembling and engraving is nothing. Just another thought. Good luck.



Just a side question for my own curiosity. When a pen is engraved does the size of the blank matter in the set up??? Say one person turns the blank BtoB and another puts a belly in it. Does this throw the engraving off. ??? Never seen a pen engraved. Had a few engraved but i am a bushing to bushing guy and they had the same shape when engraved.
I don't think it is false representation. The customer is going to see the finish of the other turners so he knows the OP is not doing all the work.

I did not read that. Then if he is good with it then great. Seems weird though.
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