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Old 03-10-2009, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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The Richmond, VA chapter is ramping up and is going to have regular meetings at Woodcraft. I'm on the board of the AAW woodturning club that also meets at the same WC and in talking to them about starting up the pen club, they mentioned making it a "subchapter" of the AAW, that way the club will be covered under the AAW insurance and have other perks related to the AAW. My question is, what is the official "organization" of the IAP? Is it just a forum or is there actually any 'governing body' that local chapters should be accountable to? No doubt, there will be a lot of cross-promotion between the AAW club and the IAP club here, but I didn't know if in the official formation of the club if there would be any problems with being affiliated with both the AAW and IAP. Any help is appreciated!!
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If you're going to affiliate with the AAW, I don't see how you can then affiliate with the IAP as well.

The AAW would require collecting dues and becoming members of the AAW, wouldn't it?
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Looked at the AAW webpage, and it says that if it is an AAW chapter, it is covered; if it is put on by another club, it is not covered for liability...

Meaning, if you affiliate with the IAP AND the AAW, your liability coverage would be dubious...at least, that's my reading...
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Looked at the AAW webpage, and it says that if it is an AAW chapter, it is covered; if it is put on by another club, it is not covered for liability...

Meaning, if you affiliate with the IAP AND the AAW, your liability coverage would be dubious...at least, that's my reading...
I get what you're saying. But what I'm wondering is, in terms of actually running a regularly meeting club, does the IAP even have any formal organization? From what I understand, the "bubbasville" style meetings are pretty much leaving each local group to its own devices. If as a pen club we would like to give demonstrations and use equipment to do so, having equipment that's already paid for and being insured would CERTAINLY be a huge benefit to the club and its members. If the IAP gives no real direction to its local clubs and has no insurance protection or anything like that, then wouldn't most clubs choose to be affiliated with the AAW if given the option? I'm not trying to pit one club against the other here, I'm just saying that if the official club is run under the AAW for legal and insurance purposes, but the IAP is promoted for communication and knowledge sharing, doesn't everyone win? I don't see why there would be a conflict in affiliating with both clubs.
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I'm going to (without any authority) say "no". It's, basically, just a website with a forum.

I think you also may be having a bit of conflict with what you're meaning by being 'affiliated'.
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When I asked about more penturning topics at my local AAW club, they put me in charge of it and invited me to be on the steering committee. We have done several penturning topics as part of the AAW meetings.

The IAP chapter is a serarate entity. There are some members that are in both organizations, and the AAW group supports the IAP group - including announcements and calendaring in the AAW newsletter.

Sharing works here in central Ohio.
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If history has taught us anything......
Something with a President, secretary & treasurere do not work.
Nothing like dictatorships to keep the masses in line.
I think IAP if a Forum , JMO
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Nothing like dictatorships to keep the masses in line.
Like Fidele Castro that where the Cigar pen come from
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Rather than speculate or go off half-cocked, I will discuss this matter with Jeff and report back to the forum.
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Rather than speculate or go off half-cocked, I will discuss this matter with Jeff and report back to the forum.
Thank you Lou...all I'm really trying to do is have the most successful club possible. I most certainly don't want to be all tied up in burocracy and politics, but the situation we're in here in Richmond apparently needs a little clarification to the rules. I'm eager to hear back.
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