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Old 03-07-2017, 11:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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A big thank you to everyone who held the contests. I know it has to be a crazy amount of work. Here's my thoughts:

I think you should either buy a mug or enter contests to be allowed on the losers train.

I think we need to have some more defined contests like segmented pen category in addition to and separate from the ball point pen contest. I think it would be tough to break down the casting unless you did tube on casting and all others (worthless wood, random objects etc.) Which might be worth considering.

I think we should break down any contest that has over 20 entries into heats distributed as evenly as possible. The example would be for the pretty wood pen with 40. It would be 4 heats of 10. People would choose 2 or 3 from each heat to advance. The top 3 in each heat would go to the finals round so that would be 12 finalists. The second and final round would only allow one vote per member and the votes would be tallied up to decide placement. Top 3 vote getters win.

I felt like it took forever in some of the contests, both as an entrant then as a voter. I think a shorter voting period could be an option, but might not be needed if we shorten the amount of rounds. Three rounds is a lot. 2 seems better, unless there is a tie, which is understandable.

I personally would like to see the entries as they come in, but it might give someone an advantage or possibly introduce "copying" of some sort, so it is probably more fair to do it this way.

I also liked it when a round was complete and the voting results were shown, before the contest organizer was able to make an official post with the results. It takes the "stress" off you when you don't have to wait to find out if you made the next round.

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I understand that having 40 entrants is a lot. I don't have the answer, but if 3 people got voted as 4 or 5 and would have beat the 1st, 2nd and 3rd places in two of the rounds, should they be out just because of placement? This is really tough. The idea of splitting it up into categories is one thing but that puts a strain on the prize pool. and would need more people to chair the contest or more work for one person to chair multiple popular contests.
Like I said, I don't have the answers. Just putting my 2 1/2 cents in.
I see your point about the possibility of that situation happening There must be some way to do it.

Maybe if we were able to have a thumbnail of each pen and a voting tab underneath or beside each thumbnail. This would be at the top of the post like we have now. The thumbnails would be clickable to enlarge them. Then we would list each pen and the description like we have now, separately. This would allow everyone to look at each pen and description and when we are ready to vote, we could go to the top and if we needed to, click the thumbnail to enlarge and shrink as needed for clarification.

One thing is am sure of is that we need two rounds max.

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Old 03-08-2017, 12:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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I did something like this
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Food for thought,,,
Does the Pretty Wood Contest provide a better contest for Beginning Turners to enter than the turning Challenged?
There is no question about its popularity.
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I definately think a downloadable calendar would be a great asset. As a competitor I missed out due to missed deadlines. I also kept checking my contest dates to make sure I didn't screw up. Just don't tell Mike or Jeff that I'll volunteer to build next years calendar.

Seemed like we were short on Moderator/Admin folks this year. Both Jeff and Mike did a bang up job. Thanks for all of it. Let me know if I can help out more next year.

Of course we could probably do away with the Basic Casting and Polymer Clay contests. Did he have any entries? Good Job Curt!
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:59 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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I think one contest should be brought back was best front page pen of the year. Only one winner no second or third place just first place. I say we do not need a worthless wood contest. That can be grouped in a casting contest if you want and also do away with the turning challenged contest. made no sense. Turn a pen how simple can it be. kids do it. Last one do away with the difficult to write with contest and maybe bring back ugly pen contest in its place.

This contest is for bragging rights that is based on the logo design for the Bash contest. Have a yearly pen contest. This runs in succession with the logo contest. Make an IAP pen. It gets displayed throughout the year somewhere on the front page. The pen can be of any type of medium, style, kit, or kitless. Any means of making it will qualify. Voting runs in connection with logo voting. Both run at the same time.

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Old 03-08-2017, 02:20 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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I definately think a downloadable calendar would be a great asset. As a competitor I missed out due to missed deadlines. I also kept checking my contest dates to make sure I didn't screw up. Just don't tell Mike or Jeff that I'll volunteer to build next years calendar.

Seemed like we were short on Moderator/Admin folks this year. Both Jeff and Mike did a bang up job. Thanks for all of it. Let me know if I can help out more next year.

Of course we could probably do away with the Basic Casting and Polymer Clay contests. Did he have any entries? Good Job Curt!
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:53 AM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Yet again I thought the bash was excellent!

The only modification I was less keen one was the way the entries were displayed in the polls.
Entries used to be displayed as full size embedded photos rather than clickable thumbnails. The problem I see with smaller thumbnails is that as you scan down the list you don't really get to see that entry. In the past with larger pictures you can normally spot your selection for the poll straight away, the one that jumps out at you!
But with contests of 40 entries and 80 thumbnails to click, I imagine many were skimmed over and not given their chance to jump out at the viewer!
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:54 AM   #28 (permalink)
 
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I'll cast my vote for needing a participation ticket to ride the Loser's Train. If you don't enter a contest, you're neither a winner or a loser.

I really like the pretty wood contest. 40 entries was a lot, but I didn't find it too difficult to winnow out my favorites.

As mentioned above, I'm not sure the Turning Challenged contest is really necessary. Not sure what I'd replace it with.

As always, it was fun and kudos to those who volunteered to run it--great job!

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I did something like this
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I liked that format much better.
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I agree that the turning challenged contest is not necessary.

I also do not like/care about the difficult to write contest, but that is not based on any particular reason, just personal preference I guess.

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