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Old 10-04-2017, 12:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys, Ive been making pens for a while and Id like to try a kit-less pen but dont know what I need as far as material and tools. Id greatly appreciate if someone could give me the links to where I can buy tools needed for this. Thank you in advance.


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What kind of a pen would you like to make? Ballpoint, rollerball, fountain?
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I think if you have a look at the library section you will find lots of info to help you on your way. Maybe take a look at the links section as well.
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Id like to make fountain pens to start.


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Here are three great articles with instructions:

http://content.penturners.org/librar...er_way_pen.pdf

http://content.penturners.org/librar...en_section.pdf

http://content.penturners.org/librar...itless_pen.pdf
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You will read a lot about needing multi start taps and dies to make a kitless pen, and many of us are waiting on our group buy to come in with those special taps and dies.

However, you can use standard taps and dies to make the threads that the cap uses to screw onto the body, as well as the threads on your section and inside the body where the section threads into.

The only special taps that you will need will be for the nib carrier which hold the nib and ink feeder together and screws into the section. You can get those from https://www.classicnib.com/feeds-and-taps/taps-detail

You can also buy pre-assembled sections from different vendors and some do require a special tap for those as well.

Other than that, the various documents and YouTube videos on making kitless pens will provide the rest of the basic items required.
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You will read a lot about needing multi start taps and dies to make a kitless pen, and many of us are waiting on our group buy to come in with those special taps and dies.

However, you can use standard taps and dies to make the threads that the cap uses to screw onto the body, as well as the threads on your section and inside the body where the section threads into.
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Not standard as in the taps and dies you have in your tool box for regular nuts and bolts but single start threads, usually metric. Victor Machinery has lots of inexpensive taps and dies suitable for pens. They don't come in sets so you buy the ones you need.
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Also depends on the nib size.

If you are going to use a #6-Jowo, then you could use a 14mmx.75 for the cap, and 10mm x .75 for the section. People have been known to snag sections from other kits and use a 10mm x 1, I do not recall which kit they were using for the section.

If you are using a #5, then you could use a 12mm x .75 cap and 9 x .75 for the section.

you will also want to get a tap handle with a conical countersink in the end to use with a tap guide: Tap Guide with adjustable tension for easy, straight threading the spring loaded tap guide helps keep everything centered.

you will also want a die holder: https://littlemachineshop.com/produc...2314&category= note you will also need a 1.5" die holder which I ordered from Rick (rherrell@triad.rr.com )

I would also recommend using a Beall Collet Chuck https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p...l-Collet-Chuck

and a set of collets https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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You will read a lot about needing multi start taps and dies to make a kitless pen, and many of us are waiting on our group buy to come in with those special taps and dies.

However, you can use standard taps and dies to make the threads that the cap uses to screw onto the body, as well as the threads on your section and inside the body where the section threads into.

The only special taps that you will need will be for the nib carrier which hold the nib and ink feeder together and screws into the section. You can get those from https://www.classicnib.com/feeds-and-taps/taps-detail

You can also buy pre-assembled sections from different vendors and some do require a special tap for those as well.

Other than that, the various documents and YouTube videos on making kitless pens will provide the rest of the basic items required.






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