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Old 03-31-2008, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry to have not stayed up with you guys that are forging ground here...I thought I was safe with doing 'kit' pens, but after reading Chris Thompson's stuff and seeing what you guys have been doing, I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet to start really customizing my stuff.

With all the tap and die stuff that's been posted, what options are out there for duplicating/mating to existing thread patterns and preserving multiple entry points? I guess the multiple points aren't that big a deal, but it just intrigues me.

Someone please point me in the right direction to catch up here. I've got a bazillion ideas I'd like to try, but I'm not gonna start chasing threads by hand! heh
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You really have only two options. The first one is to get a set of tap and dies. This is only good for one pen style you want to make. By pen style meaning Small, Medium or Large. This is only for me a short term method. Because of there expense and because taps and dies do wear out over time. When you start by buy more then one set the price starts to approach the cost of a decent metal lathe. Note this applies to multi-start threads not single start. I wanted to try and make my own pen style before putting money out for a metal lathe. I really what to see what type of market there is. Chasing threads with a wood lathe is not all that bad. For dies you need a die holder about 20.00 and you turn the lathe by hand. What is really to challenge is getting the size down on a repeatable basis. That is turn for a metal lathe as well as a wood lathe. Right now once Atlanta is done I will be able to concentrate on make my own pens.

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Does anybody have a good small metal lathe to recommend? I think that for advanced pen making, it's looking more and more useful (not only for threading, but also for holder making and even full pen body work).
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I know of a couple but I will have to look thru my information again. They start in the 2,500.00 range. But in the mean while I have been great some great result with my wood lathe and mini chucks. Next week I will have to post some information about my results.

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I bought the 7x14 Micro-Mark metal lathe for $650.00, far cry from $2,500.00. I admit I'm new to metal lathes but it came highly recommended, as far as mini lathes go.
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Sorry to have not stayed up with you guys that are forging ground here...I thought I was safe with doing 'kit' pens, but after reading Chris Thompson's stuff and seeing what you guys have been doing, I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet to start really customizing my stuff.

With all the tap and die stuff that's been posted, what options are out there for duplicating/mating to existing thread patterns and preserving multiple entry points? I guess the multiple points aren't that big a deal, but it just intrigues me.

Someone please point me in the right direction to catch up here. I've got a bazillion ideas I'd like to try, but I'm not gonna start chasing threads by hand! heh
Karl I almost never loan out tools but if you would like , when we get the taps in I will share. I will want to play with them for a few weeks. But after the initial newness wears off I'll still be doing kit pens so I would be willing to send them to you to play with for a few weeks. That should hold you until another group buy. I think we could work out a time share. it will give you a chance to see if you really want to invest the money in a set.
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You are right Micro-Mark is a good lathe and for the price is a great value. I also would have been looking down that route had this been just a hobby. But since turning this into a full time business I had to look what was going to give me the best productivity for the money. Also had to look at longevity of the machine. After questioning a number of machinist that is where the price break came from. As a result would I change my mind later on an go to a Micro-Mark it all depends on what I want to do with it.
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I agree Alan, if I were buying a lathe to use full time in a production environment I would go larger also. After reading ALOT about these little lathes it became obvious that there was alot of tweaking and tuning that needed to be done before you make your first cut. After spending all day last Saturday tuning it up I was able to do some practicing on Sunday. I made a set of JG bushings out of aluminum and they turned out pretty good! I'm waiting for some O1 drill rod so I can make the real McCoy's. There's ALOT to learn but I'm looking forward to it.:D
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A lot of good information here http://www.mini-lathe.com/
about mini metal lathes. At least it seems so to me (who is pretty ignorant about such things):D
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I agree, I've been living there for the last several weeks. So much to learn!:D
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