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Old 05-21-2018, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Have stabilized several blanks with success using cactus juice. Have just completed by first batch of completely worthless wood, all soft and pinky.

On completion , I find very mixed results. On some wood, it is solid in some areas and anywhere from finger nail mark soft to finger gouge it out soft on the same wood. Other pieces, mostly soft.

Same juice, vac, soak, oven, etc. as before. Just much softer wood to start (and end) with. What am I missing?


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Not sure . Always will be some variation , but that is a bit extreme . Was it completely dry ? Had all bubbling stopped when the vacuum was removed ? Kind of wood ? Partly bark ? (Bark generally doesn`t stabilize well .) Did more of the juice run out of the softer pieces during cooking ? ( Thin cross sections may drain out more and be a bit softer as a result .)
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It's my understanding that the stabilizing resin just fills the empty spaces in the wood. The remaining wood is still there with it's strength or lack of strength. Some will soak into the wood fibers but most just fills the space that use to be air binding the wood together better. The left behind wood should still have the same properties. I've noticed this on Black Palm. It has much more resistance to breaking and chipping when stabilized. It holds together better, but the properties of the wood parts haven't really changed.

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This was sponge soft maple, no large voids. It was dyed juice so that shows where the dye was left behind, which makes me think juice was there.

Took it out of the oven, checked and put it back under vacuum in the juice. Should have new info this afternoon.


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If you cooked after the soak you won't get a better result because you would have already created the catalytic affect. My first guess is maybe the juice.got contaminated or is older? Sometimes temps affect life and hardness of the final blank. Bad juice will be much soft and not set nearly as solid but more like gellatin
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Is there an expiration date or use by date on that bottle?
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Will check the dates. The juice is in various containers but I have the original. This is a mix of colors to create a different color mix, all from the same original container.


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The second vacuum drew bubbles for about 30 minutes. Let soak for a couple of hours and cooked again for 3 hours. No real change. More juice present but still not solid. Guess Iíll throw that batch away. I will experiment with some of the other, unblinded colors later in the week.

I have noticed with this overall batch that some of it seems to work well and others donít. Main jug has no date. Will check other blanks and see if differences were color specific.

Good thing is trying to make worthless wood less worthless and not succeed means you end up back where you started. Except I now have purple worthless wood. Lol.


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Have you tried to contact Curtis to see what he has to say?
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Try baking a small amount of resin, shot glass size before you throw it. The resin can be sometimes be saved with more catalyst. Check with Curtis.


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