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Old 09-26-2007, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A post a few weeks ago gave me the idea to try a CA finish on two pens of the same wood (burl in this case) but do one with a shiny finish and one with a "mat" finish.

TO SHINE OR NOT TO SHINE:
The shine of the one on the left is from 12000 MM.

The mat finish (on the right) was taken to 8000 MM and then back down to 4000 and then to 3200 MM. It looks more "woodish" for those that want a flat finish. I do believe that eventually it will rub to a sheen like the keyboard keys do on a well used computer.

These pens were stabilized with acetone / acrylate solution, first vacuumed for a couple of hours and then pressure for 6 hours. Cured for about a week.


MY CONCLUSIONS:

Mat finished CA feels smooth and does cut down on the shine that some people say looks like plastic. If CA looks "plastic" to you but you want a wood look and sheen like a soft wax gives but much better protection - this might be what you are looking for!



Edited for clarification. Another post was made for the second picture and subject on stabilizing.
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Do you do anything special with/to the poly that you use to stabilize with like diluting?
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The only conclusion that really matters is that of the customer, and I would bet that most of them will go for the higher gloss. People are like crows, they are attracted to shiny stuff.

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Do you do anything special with/to the poly that you use to stabilize with like diluting?
Yes, I thinned the poly 50/50 with mineral spirits.
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Do you do anything special with/to the poly that you use to stabilize with like diluting?
Yes, I thinned the poly 50/50 with mineral spirits.
Thank you sir!

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<br />The only conclusion that really matters is that of the customer, and I would bet that most of them will go for the higher gloss. People are like crows, they are attracted to shiny stuff.

You are right Russ!

The real reason that I started this experiment because of two different posts on finishing.

In one post someone mentioned that it was the additives in finishes that made them have a shine or sheen. While that is true, I also know that the finishes can be manipulated, if a person knows what he is doing, to give the opposite effect.

The other reason was that a few have said that CA gives pens a "plastic" look. If they don't like the shiny look, CA can still give protection and have the "mat" look that makes it look more "woodish." For those that like the "wood" <b>feel</b>, I bet anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference in the feel of the three of the CA finished pens or with a 12000 MM finished wood and wax pen for that matter.


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My conclusion is that the visual perception determines the tactile "feel" of the pen. A high gloss is perceived as a "plastic" appearance, therefore we will also "feel" it as being a cold hard plastic. A matte finish has the appearance of bare wood, and we will say it has the warmth and "feel" of bare wood, even though it is the identical finish.

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Thanks for doing this. It's nice to see the finished pens side by side. Why did you back track from 8000 MM to 3200?
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Good experiment Hank, nice to offer the protection that CA provides without the glossy look! [8D]
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<br />The only conclusion that really matters is that of the customer, and I would bet that most of them will go for the higher gloss. People are like crows, they are attracted to shiny stuff.

I don't know, Russ. I've known a few buzzards in my time. [}:)]

Yes, I agree that most folks like glossy pens.
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