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Old 10-27-2016, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Question for those that don't use CA accelerator?

For those "Tea-Totallers" who abstain from accelerator (on a CA finish - not drinking it ):

How long between apply do you wait to for the CA coat to dry between thin coats and medium coats.

For example (this is just an example):

  • 1 minute for between thin coats
  • 3 minutes for between medium coats.
I do understand that there are countless variables that will affect drying times from humidity, to changes in the Earth's axis, to the rate at which the polar ice caps are melting. I am just putting-out some feelers.

Motivation for the question: I am thinking about not using it any more. Motivation for the motivation: I am lazy - don't like to engage in superfluous steps.

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Generally about 15 seconds between coats of thin CA - a little longer (30-45 sec) if I put on more than 6 coats. I should mention that I apply very thin coats - just one or two drops on a folded paper towel at the same speed that I turn (around 2500).

After my final coat, I let it spin a couple of minutes then apply & buff carnauba wax (white Hut bar).

It's not a high-build, encased in plastic look, and may not be the best result for those who sell pens, but I like it.
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Don't drink tea but I will put my 2 in I do not use accelerator when finishing pens. I put 3 to 4 coats of thin CA and that is very little time between. I let the lathe run. Usually a minute or 2. Then 3 to 4 coats of med and the time is varied because as you mentioned too many variables. Probably 5 to 10 minutes between. Sometimes I go something else so the time between coats is not written in stone. But those are averages. Then let sit for 24 hours or more and polish. I am never in a rush when it comes to making pens. I never commit to time schedules. Life is too short. Not sure how this helps you. I do use Satellite Hot Stuff CA which will make a difference too probably. Not sure if all CA dries at the same rate. Good luck with your findings.
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I do the same as Edgar 10-15 sec between coats of thin CA, but I do use BO after 4 thin coats it does act like an accelerator but also smooths the CA and binds to form a harder finish.
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Thank you. I have been experimenting, but like to learn from the experience of others
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I do the same as Edgar 10-15 sec between coats of thin CA, but I do use BO after 4 thin coats it does act like an accelerator but also smooths the CA and binds to form a harder finish.
BO? Doesn't the CA stick to the pit hairs...Sorry couldn't resist.

I've used all three of the above methods. I was also using the Stick Fast Finishing CA for a while. Good results but the extended cure time prompted me to use accelerator.

Your best bet is to turn down a piece of wood and test the cure time. Temperature, Humidity and yes altitude can make quite a difference in cure time.
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I don't us accelerator and now I don't use CA .
Most of the time the accelerator would make the finish crack .
On my pocket chalkers I cant rotate those because they are not straight so did the CA finish all by hand .
Including buffing or polishing the finish out .

All of my CA finishes felt soft, I used stick fast .

I was putting on thicker coats and it would take 30minutes for the finish to dry .

Some times the first coat on certain woods would crystalized and it would have to be sanded down and start all over ..
I have done allot of CA finishes . maybe I was doing it wrong .
But I am done with a CA finish ..

Epoxy and or Solarez .............. I am just allot happier that I don't have to mess with CA any more
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I don't use accelerator anymore and I don't know how much my procedure will help. Like JT, I am in no hurry. I let the thin coats go for a minute or two, then for the coats of medium I apply and then read a book (not the whole book), then I come back and apply another coat, the number of coats depends on what I am doing, simple finishing or a decal pen. After I am finishing applying coats I wait until the next day to wet sand and polish. And I do drink tea.
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Thanks guys.
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I usually do a BLO/CA finish. I usually just go from one to the next without any waiting in between. I'm not rushing but not really waiting either but I guess by the time I squirt the next BLO or CA on the paper towel and apply it to the blank 10 or 15 seconds have passed.
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