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Old 03-31-2014, 06:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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I personally like the pens plus finish for hard wood. I don't think it looks as good on softer wood. I did a desert iron wood pen with pens plus about 7 or 8 months ago, and I think it looks as good as the day I finished it. It doesn't get a lot of use, but it does get some.

But my experience with maple wasn't as good. The finish became dull after a short time. If I use any spalted wood, I'll use CA till I can find an alternative. I do plan on trying the dipped method someday.
I agree with Bob, and I think this is because it is non-building. When I apply it to a stabilized blank, I use the 4000 micro mesh pad. This has helped set the finish in the blank. On a non-stabilized or soft blank, it is difficult to get great results....at least for me.
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Dan, Can you explain difference, I have never used pen plus finish. May be interested in trying it.Where to buy it? Thanks
One different that I was trying to illustrate is that pens plus doesn't separate. Look closely at the other two.
And yet the bottle is still marked "Shake Well". That implies to me that the "non-separating" is more apparant then real.
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Dan, if not mistaken directions for all three products in your comparison require you to shake not stir before use! Just because do not see separation with Pen Plus, what does it mean.

Except for product contents advertisement hype sounds the same. If not mistaken Crystal coat might be least expensive product.

I tried posting a picture of over ten year old cherry desk pen finished with Crystal Coat finish. Not sure why my EOS program not working. Have two more pens finished same way been living my vehicles glove boxes (car & truck) for same amount of time.

Only point would like to emphasize is expect sheen fade back on pens finished with shellac/oil/wax mixtures. All three pens talking about still look good. If want a low or no VOC’s and natural look of wood do not worry about sheen.
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If not for additives put in walnut salad oil you buy at the grocery store to keep it from stinking would say use that with hard auto wax over that. Quality of grocery,health food, & art supply store walnut oil varies, but can improve it by heating the stuff!
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I've been using this at the center for the blind because it is a finish my blind turners can easily put on themselves. Plus it doesn't generate the toxic fumes. Down there I can't put respirators on all my turners. For the soft woods, I have had great success with putting a few coats of CA/BLO using Young's method. It is also easy for my blind turners to apply, and I use a fan to blow away the fumes. Then I put the pens plus on top of the CA/BLO to give a high luster. So far it has been very successful.
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I've been using this at the center for the blind because it is a finish my blind turners can easily put on themselves. Plus it doesn't generate the toxic fumes. Down there I can't put respirators on all my turners. For the soft woods, I have had great success with putting a few coats of CA/BLO using Young's method. It is also easy for my blind turners to apply, and I use a fan to blow away the fumes. Then I put the pens plus on top of the CA/BLO to give a high luster. So far it has been very successful.
I've done pens plus over a coat or two of CA as well. Pens plus does best over a sold, sealed base IMO. Ca does that without needing to go through the building and polishing process.
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Since, it's been so long since I've given an update on this, I'll share two things about my own practice.

1. I use CA the vast majority of the time. I'm so used to it now that there is no time difference between Pens plus and CA. Pens plus is cheaper cost for the finish though.

2. I still think Pens Plus is one of the best alternatives for those who don't want to use CA. It seems to consistently be the best of the friction finishes. And there are a lot more good reports on it since this thread started.

3. If you are going to use PP, it's important that you get a good system set up that works for you. Make sure you heat that finish up. :-)
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Oops. Didn't look at the post I was quoting carefully enough. Won't get a reply.

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