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Old 09-22-2015, 06:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Sounds like you've had the same idea I had. That's similar to my current setup as far as compounds, but my last two buffs are string buffs. I just wasn't getting great results with my sanding & buffing setup, so I switched to 4 buffs. Great minds think alike, right?
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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I don't know how great my mind is...it just gets bored very quickly.
I also bought 9 string buffs, and after trying both, I like the Canton flannel better.

I will probably make a smaller 4 stage with the string buffs. We will see.

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Old 09-23-2015, 08:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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So P-22 says to uses as the first step. Does that really come after WD which most people seem to use as a final step?
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Thanks, Tony. I will give the Caswell a try
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:29 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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You are welcome.

Hi Carl:

The descriptions/products names/application grits/sequence confused the heck out of me.
The sequence that I described above (and would be delighted to talk to you about over the phone) was recommended to me by two very experienced IAP members and Caswell's technical support (excellent BTW). That doesn't make it right or the best way to do it; it is just what I decided to do.


I have finished close to a dozen pens this way, and I am very impressed. I did have a short learning curve, but was impressed for the first pen. I bought a 20x loop which should arrive today. So far I can't see any scratches with a 10x loop. Once I get that electron microscope, I may have a real process to brag about (as well as discover any microscopic civilizations living in between the scratches LOL).

As I stated above, I do use a little 205 polish to remove the any residual dry powder dust (Caswell actually sells a compound for that, but 4 wheels is enough for LOL).
The 205 also prepares the surface for your protectorant/wax/Rejex.

Last 3 points:

I do seal the ends of my blanks with 2 coats of CA by apply to small pool on to a paper towel and dabbing the ends. I do not use accelerator.

I also make sure that I don't skimp on my dry sanding steps.

Lastly I remove sanding dust from wood (prior to CA application) by spraying accelerator onto a paper towel and wiping the wooden barrel clean while rotating at 1000 rpms. I then wait a few minutes and start applying CA. This is not the case with non-wood pens.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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I remember Texatdurango's old thread where he said that you use the P-22 and P-112 backwards per a conversation he had with Caswell. I'm guessing this is along those same lines.

I grabbed a bar of each to play around with. Currently I still use the blue jewelers rouge as it's a great all around compound and is safe on plastics, but I've been wanting to play with something a bit different. I figure I'll charge a wheel each up with the Caswell stuff and see where that goes.
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Old 09-23-2015, 11:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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I actually traded a buffing system that included the blue rouge when I started using Meguiars 105 and 205, that was 400 pens ago :-).

I have seen amazing finishes with it, but they all included wet sanding.

Les Elm's finishes are outstanding! I believe his process is much simpler than mine and he uses 0000 steel wool and no MM. I just can't get the hang of it.
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I've got mine down to 3 dry sandpaper grits and then buff. 400-600-800 - blue wheel - dry wheel. But since I'm almost out of my blue again I figured I'd give something else a try just for fun.

buffing is so much nicer once I added a little foredom variable speed buffer to my arsenal. No more swapping around stuff on the lathe to buff, just turn and walk to the buffer.

Just goes to show, ask 5 pen turners how to finish a pen and you'll get 492 different answers. And at least half of those probably get you to the same end result.
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Hi Tony, this finishing method reminds me of Texatdurango's 6 year old post
Buffing-- kicked up a notch!

Turners here at iap and other forums have shown me that there are numerous ways to get high gloss finishes through various methods. I finish turning with a carbide tool, sand with 600 & 800 then tripoli and white diamond on cheap HF 4" wheels mounted on a pen mandrel and am completely satisfied with the results. When my bars and wheels wear out I might spring for the gear from Caswell just to satisfy my curiosity.

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Old 09-23-2015, 03:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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For all intents and purposes, they are the same. It seem to have stirred a debate and ego-fest. That's too bad.
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