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Old 09-19-2015, 08:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I had a nice description of the process composed; and I lost it after attaching the image and attempting to preview the post.

If interested in the details, send me a PM. I am late for a church thing.

Left to right:
  1. Tripoli
  2. White Diamond
  3. Caswell 6163
  4. Caswell 6165
Then Meguiars 205 for residual compound removal, followed by Rejex synthetic wax.

I used this on all materials with excellent results.

I hope this helps someone.
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That's the first 4 wheel buffer I've seen. Do you sand at all first or right fr tool / ca to that?
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What is Caswell 6163 and 65?
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Old 09-19-2015, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Some asked for more details:

Turn pen to size.
Dry sand 320 (or lower if needed) to 600: reverse 500 rpm with Abranet or AO.
Go to Buffing Station: All 1500 to 1800 rpms (forwrad).

Left to right:
Tripoli: Fast Cut Greasy Tripoli Compound T-12 - Caswell Inc

White Diamond: Everyone has WD
Caswell 6163: Search results for: '6163' - Caswell Inc

Caswell 6165: Search results for: '6165' - Caswell Inc

Then Meguiars 205 for residual compound removal, followed by Rejex synthetic wax.


12 Buffs (3 per compound): Canton Flannel Wheel 8" x 1/2" - Caswell Inc

I substitute 2 cotton sewn buffs around 1 canton flannel for the Tripoli compound. Spiral Sewn Cotton Wheel - 8" x 1/2" - Caswell Inc

I am sure there are another thousands ways to approach this. This is just what I happen to try.

Used 1/2 inch All Thread, 1/2 inch by 2 inch fender washers, split lock washers, and 1/2 inch hex bolts.

Made a wooded 2MT and drilled a 1/2 hole about an inch deep. Epoxied the ALL Thread into the hole. On the tail stock side, I removed the spur on the live center than came with my lathe.

I buff on the tripoli wheel until the surface produces a light orange peel finish. Everyone will have their own approach.
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Some asked for more details:

Turn pen to size.
Dry sand 320 (or lower if needed) to 600: reverse 500 rpm with Abranet or AO.
Go to Buffing Station: All 1500 to 1800 rpms (forwrad).

Left to right:
Tripoli: Fast Cut Greasy Tripoli Compound T-12 - Caswell Inc

White Diamond: Everyone has WD
Caswell 6163: Search results for: '6163' - Caswell Inc

Caswell 6165: Search results for: '6165' - Caswell Inc

Then Meguiars 205 for residual compound removal, followed by Rejex synthetic wax.


12 Buffs (3 per compound): Canton Flannel Wheel 8" x 1/2" - Caswell Inc

I substitute 2 cotton sewn buffs around 1 canton flannel for the Tripoli compound. Spiral Sewn Cotton Wheel - 8" x 1/2" - Caswell Inc

I am sure there are another thousands ways to approach this. This is just what I happen to try.

Used 1/2 inch All Thread, 1/2 inch by 2 inch fender washers, split lock washers, and 1/2 inch hex bolts.

Made a wooded 2MT and drilled a 1/2 hole about an inch deep. Epoxied the ALL Thread into the hole. On the tail stock side, I removed the spur on the live center than came with my lathe.

I buff on the tripoli wheel until the surface produces a light orange peel finish. Everyone will have their own approach.
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That's pretty slick, Tony. Well done.
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Thx. It is only slick if it works :-).
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Tony is this done before or after you apply finish or is the rejex your finish? Have you ever over buffed and done damage to the pen finish?
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If I understand your questions:

Rejex is my last step regardless of the process that I use to polish/remove fine scratches (finer than 600 grit). It is merely serves to protect and add some depth of shine; it doesn't last forever. It serves as "wax" without an abrasive.

In an attempt to improve the finish (remove very, very fine scratches) of an assembled pen, I did remove the black paint or whatever it is, from a thin ring that surrounds the center band. I was glad to find what looked like a copper colored metal which I preferred to the black ring given the color of the blanks.

Yesterday, I intentionally buffed a spare chrome clip. It didn't remove the finish. I am sure it could have been removed if I applied enough compound, pressure or speed/rpms.

Buffing/polishing removes or cuts material. I would think anything most surfaces. coatings, etc. are vulnerable.

I use this dry method just to remove the fine scratches that 600 grit Abranet leave behind. I don't like wet sanding. I find it boring and a risk to my CA finishes - no matter how careful I am.

Many achieve the same, if not better results using everything from brown paper bags to steel wool. I have not shared their success. I will be in big trouble when I get bored of buffing LOL.

I hope I answered your questions.
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