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Old 12-02-2014, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I read in entirely the process that Mike recommended using this product. But I have a few questions between two of their products.

Would you recommend buying both the Walnut Oil/Carnauba Wax /Shellac Woodturning Finish and Pens Plus or would it be overkill? Would one replace the other? I am having hard time understanding the difference between the two based on the write-up on their website.

I am planning on using the Walnut Finish Oil too.

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Depends upon amount of sheen you want. Walnut oil will give you a matt finish. Walnut oil/ Carnauba wax/ & Shellac or Pens Plus will give more sheen initially but also have sheen fade back over time with use.

Depending upon sheen looking for and wood using will affect finial appearance. Also who and how pen is used. All three finishes will give the look and feel of natural wood, when talk about sheen fade back talking about going from gloss to semi-gloss, to matt eventually.

Have a Cherry (closed grain) wood click pen finished over ten years ago with a Shellac friction product and sheen is light semi-gloss. If had use Oak (open grain) wood sheen might appear matt.

I might buy both but not at the same time, would buy one with intention of trying the other later if not satisfied or still curious. Will be interested in what others have to say.
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Thank you for your feedback. I was considering buying all three at the same time but I think it would be best to test one at a time and start to understand how they work with the wood.
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Just use the pens plus. Don't worry about the other mixes.
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I have bought/used both: Dr's Pens Plus, and Dr's Woodshop.

My opinion only... Both will fade over time. Both will give a nice Matte finish.

I suspect the Pens Plus will give a slightly longer sheen. When I have used it (15+ light coats) I have been happy with the finish.

I have started using the Dr's Woodshop finish for some of my bird houses, and have ben happy with the result. A nice matte finish, not very shiny, but a nice overall finish.

I would easily buy both again (and eventually will!).

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I'd be interested to hear the feedback on the shine over time from someone who's carried one for awhile.

I've not carried one long enough myself to say from first hand experience.

I hear lots of people make comments based on other brands of friction finish.

For me, it's a good finish. There is no doubt that it's not ca. It just has a different look then the deep ca. Looks more skin to ca with blo though.

I'm experimenting with letting the finish sit a day or more before handing. I'll continue to do this for awhile because I think it might help.

I'm wondering whether the walnut oil having some time to set is beneficial.
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I bought both the walnut oil, and the Pens Plus. I've used just walnut oil, and that gives a mat finish once it dries. Pen plus will give more sheen, and gets somewhat close to CA initially. I use Mikes method of sanding with the walnut oil. That works better than just using Pen's Plus.

But I don't like using Pens Plus on softer wood. It goes to a mat finish very fast. But on harder woods it retains it's sheen much longer.
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Thank you all for sharing your experience about using Dr's products.

Bob, what do you usually use on softer wood if you don't use the Pens Plus?

So pretty much from what I have read around the forum and hear is that friction polish will eventually turn to matte, but we there is still no definite timeframe.

Dan, you mentioned ca with blo, what is blo? (noob quesion)
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