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eharri446 07-29-2017 09:11 AM

Triple Start Tap & Die Group Buy 2017
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Please read this post in its entirety.

First and foremost you must:
• Post to this thread and pm me if you would like to participate.

• This group buy cutoff if August 20th, 2017 in order to complete the above and fulfill the above and below.
This buy is focused on obtaining the maximum quantity discount for our members for triple lead tap and dies as well as for the Bock and JOWO taps required to build kit less pens.
The goal is to have everything done and ordered by August 21st, 2017. I will do my best to use USPS Small Flat Rate Box (online USA postage price of $7.15 plus insurance based on the basic cost to replace the taps and dies that you order. If you do not want to pay for the additional insurance you will have to send me a PM opting out of the insurance). International postal rates depend on country and I will figure and request the difference at mailing to be sent by PayPal.

$50 of insurance is now included with Priority Mail. YOU are responsible for any additional insurance you want.

**New IAP guideline**
Insurance will be included unless you specifically decline!

For reference:
$100 of insurance costs $2.65, 200= $3.35, 300= $4.35, 400=$5.50, 500= $6.65. Please refer to the USPS website if you need insurance above $500. The amount of insurance will be calculated by me once I receive the spreadsheet. I recommend insurance. Please remember that I am responsible for shipping your merchandise, but I cannot be held responsible for its delivery!
For Example:
If you order 1 plug tap and die for the M14, M13, M12, M11 and one plug tap for the Bock #5 and #6 as well as the JOWO #5 and #6 the total retail cost would be: $2011.40 so your insurance would be $27.90 making you total shipping cost $35.05.

The total cost of shipping will be determined once the individual spreadsheets are received. Once that is done the total cost for your order will be sent to you via PM. Once the total cost is determine you will have to make your payment to me via PayPal by the payment deadline. Otherwise your order will not be include in the final order to the vendor.
There is no waiting list for this group buy.
This group buy is open to any member of IAP.

• 1. Post to this thread and PM me to get in
• 2. Must have a valid shipping address
• 3. New: In your reply in this thread you must state that you either want to "Insure for retail value" or "No additional insurance on my shipment." Additionally, on the spreadsheet, you must indicate the same.
Please indicate your NAME and IAP USERNAME on all payments and correspondence.

I will give you my email address to return the spreadsheet too. Please note, download the spreadsheet at the bottom of this thread.

In the Excel document, there is a block at the top of the spreadsheets. It requires:
Your IAP screen name
Your “real” name
Your email address
Your mailing address
Whether or not you want insurance (Yes/No)
The sheet automatically calculates the PayPal fee – zero it out if using “Friends and Family”
If these fields are not filled out accurately, the spreadsheet will be returned to you!
• Spreadsheet must be returned by August 10th, 2017 (Midnight – CST)
• PayPal (only payment option) by August 20th, 2017 (Midnight – CST)
I will be placing the order by Monday, Aug 21st, 2017. If you have not made the PayPal payment by the deadline scheduled above you will be removed from the buy. I will confirm your total via PM as well as my PayPal information once I receive your order back.

Several members and organizers have asked PayPal regarding the use of "Friends and Family" payment option. And it is OK in their eyes and has been each time they were contacted. The "Friends and Family" payment method has no fees for the recipient, thus saving you money. If you choose NOT to use the send money to Friends and Family option, the spreadsheet has already added 4% PayPal goods and services fee. If you use F&F option - follow the guide on the spreadsheet and zero out the PayPal fee.

I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I will try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.

Shipping will be done once all of the merchandise for the order is received. According to the vendor the merchandise will be available based on the : taps in 3-5 weeks and the dies in 4 – 6 weeks depending on quantity ordered
Will be defaulted to published USPS small Flat Rate Box for online postage price of $7.15. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.
Will be determined once you submit your spreadsheet, and the cost will be updated on your spreadsheet. Once that is updated you will be notified via PM of the final cost of your order. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.
I do require that you pay for insurance, unless you specifically chose to opt out of the additional insurance. I cannot and will not be responsible for what happens to your order after it leaves my control. You will receive confirmation of shipping, but once it has left my hands I am not responsible for it.

If you desire no additional insurance then you must notify me via PM and indicate that you do not want additional insurance on the spreadsheet.

I highly recommend that you do not opt out of the additional insurance because of the cost to replace your order at the retail cost per item.
The items available for ordering will be listed on the spreadsheet and all you have to do is enter the quantity for each tap and/or die that you wish to purchase.

Only items listed on the spreadsheet will be included in the buy, no other items will be added.
There will be NO back orders.
The attached spreadsheet for the Triple Start Threads Group Buy will calculate your total cost for order based on the results of the thread under the Group Buy Research forum.

I have also rounded up the PayPal fee to 4.0% (only applicable if you’re NOT using the Friends and Family option in PayPal). Your PayPal fee may be less than what you pay, and this difference will be refunded. Once all payments are received and account settled to my satisfaction, I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I’ll try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.

All refunds or settlements will be in the form of a check included in your order.

Please complete your order within the spreadsheet. Before you return the spreadsheet to me by email – change the excel file name as follows:
RealFirstName_RealLastName_TSTD_2017_Group_Final.x ls
I hope these terms are acceptable to everyone, and please feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns.

NOTE: If anyone does not have access to Microsoft Excel, please contact me and I will send you and alternate means of entering your order.

dthayer 07-29-2017 09:35 AM

Thank you for doing this! I have been wanting to get into kitless for a while now and these seem like great prices. Would you be able and willing to tell the ignorant among us (me!) what we need at a minimum from this offering to get started?

leehljp 07-29-2017 09:48 AM

Hank Lee aka leehljp - Posting to this thread. I am about to send the spreadsheet with the email after I post this and PM you directly.

size 11 tap and die (non bottoming).

PLEASE INSURE for FULL retail value.


"The sheet automatically calculates the PayPal fee – zero it out if using “Friends and Family”"
-> I don't order items here often; not sure what this means, what its purpose is or how to use it. I have just purchased things straight through PayPal. So how does this affect me?

(NOTE on SHIPPING: ON occasion, my address shows up as not valid - with a few companies. It IS valid. I live in a small town and everything USPS goes through the post office BOX. They do not deliver to the street. AND They do not put mail in my box unless it has a box NUMBER on it. Street address by itself will not work; it will get sent back to the sender.)

Racer3770 07-29-2017 10:00 AM

Thanks for putting this together!
I have filled out the spreadsheet for a 12 x 0.8 plug tap and die. Please insure for full retail value.

Thanks again!
James Smith

Jontello 07-29-2017 10:48 AM

Thanks. I just sent you the spreadsheet with my order. Yes to the insurance.

Jon tello

Sent from my iPad using mobile app

edstreet 07-29-2017 12:06 PM

What's the dimensions on the Taps

stuckinohio 07-29-2017 12:09 PM

Spreadsheet sent. Please insure for retail cost.

Thank you for doing this. We all appreciate it!

eharri446 07-29-2017 12:41 PM


we have pricing for M14, M13, M12, M11 triple lead plug, bottoming taps and dies.

Also we have pricing for Bock #5 and 6, and JOWO #5 and 6 plug and bottoming dies.

You can see the price breakdowns for each one in the thread under Group Buy Research.

eharri446 07-29-2017 12:47 PM

Just so that everyone is aware of where these taps and dies are coming from:

The company is call and is out of Palm Beach, Florida. The dies are made either in Europe or in the United States.

duncsuss 07-29-2017 01:13 PM


I'd like 1 x Bock #6 plug tap.

The price is less than $50, no additional insurance beyond the automatic $50 coverage with a SFRB.

I'll pay Friends & Family.

Thanks for all your effort organizing this group buy.

Duncan Suss
(IAP username: duncsuss)

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