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Old 05-29-2018, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2018 Kit Less Pen Tap and Die Group Buy

Please read this post in its entirety.

First and foremost you must:

• Post to this thread and pm me if you would like to participate.

• This group buy cutoff if June 10th, 2018 in order to complete the above and fulfill the above and below.

This buy is focused on obtaining the maximum quantity discount for our members for triple lead tap and dies as well as for the Bock and JOWO taps required to build kit less pens.

The goal is to have everything done and ordered by August 21st, 2017. I will do my best to use USPS Small Flat Rate Box (online USA postage price of $7.15 plus insurance based on the basic cost to replace the taps and dies that you order. If you do not want to pay for the additional insurance you will have to send me a PM opting out of the insurance). International postal rates depend on country and I will figure and request the difference at mailing to be sent by PayPal.

$50 of insurance is now included with Priority Mail. YOU are responsible for any additional insurance you want.

**New IAP guideline**
Insurance will be included unless you specifically decline!

For reference:
The amount of insurance will be calculated by the spreadsheet once you make your selections. Please remember that I am responsible for shipping your merchandise, but I cannot be held responsible for its delivery!
For Example:
If you order 1 plug tap and die for the M14, M13, M12, M11 and one plug tap for the Bock #5 and #6 as well as the JOWO #5 and #6 the total retail cost would be: $2011.40 so your insurance would be $27.90 making you total shipping cost $35.05.

The total cost of shipping will be determined once the individual spreadsheets are received. Once that is done the total cost for your order will be sent to you via PM. Once the total cost is determine you will have to make your payment to me via PayPal by the payment deadline. Otherwise your order will not be include in the final order to the vendor.
Additional Shipping Cost: I will be the one doing the purchasing and arranging for the shipment of the merchandise to me by the vendor. Each participant will be charged a pro-rate portion of the cost of shipping which will be invoiced separately. The charge for the previous group buy was around $200.00 and will most likely be less than that do to the smaller group participating.

There is no waiting list for this group buy.

This group buy is open to any member of IAP.


• 1. Post to this thread and PM me to get in
• 2. Must have a valid shipping address
• 3. New: In your reply in this thread you must state that you either want to "Insure for retail value" or "No additional insurance on my shipment." Additionally, on the spreadsheet, you must indicate the same.
Please indicate your NAME and IAP USERNAME on all payments and correspondence.

I will give you my email address to return the spreadsheet too. Please note, download the spreadsheet at the bottom of this thread.

In the Excel document, there is a block at the top of the spreadsheets. It requires:
Your IAP screen name
Your “real” name
Your email address
Your mailing address
Whether or not you want insurance (Yes/No)
The sheet automatically calculates the PayPal fee – zero it out if using “Friends and Family”
If these fields are not filled out accurately, the spreadsheet will be returned to you!

• Spreadsheet must be returned by June 10th, 2018 (Midnight – CST)
• Invoices will be emailed by June 15th, 2018 (Midnight – CST)
• PayPal (only payment option) by June 20th, 2018 (Midnight – CST)


I will be placing the order by Monday, June 21st, 2018. If you have not made the PayPal payment by the deadline scheduled above you will be removed from the buy. I will confirm your total via PM as well as my PayPal information once I receive your order back.

Several members and organizers have asked PayPal regarding the use of "Friends and Family" payment option. And it is OK in their eyes and has been each time they were contacted. The "Friends and Family" payment method has no fees for the recipient, thus saving you money. If you choose NOT to use the send money to Friends and Family option, the spreadsheet has already added 4% PayPal goods and services fee. If you use F&F option - follow the guide on the spreadsheet and zero out the PayPal fee.

I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I will try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.

Shipping will be done once all of the merchandise for the order is received. According to the vendor the merchandise will be available based on the taps and the dies in 4 – 6 weeks depending on quantity ordered
Will be defaulted to published USPS small Flat Rate Box for online postage price of $7.30. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.
Will be determined once you submit your spreadsheet, and the cost will be updated on your spreadsheet. Once that is updated you will be notified via PM of the final cost of your order. It will include tracking and delivery confirmation.

I do require that you pay for insurance, unless you specifically chose to opt out of the additional insurance. I cannot and will not be responsible for what happens to your order after it leaves my control. You will receive confirmation of shipping, but once it has left my hands I am not responsible for it.

If you desire no additional insurance then you must notify me via PM and indicate that you do not want additional insurance on the spreadsheet.

I highly recommend that you do not opt out of the additional insurance because of the cost to replace your order at the retail cost per item.

The items available for ordering will be listed on the spreadsheet and all you have to do is enter the quantity for each tap and/or die that you wish to purchase.

Only items listed on the spreadsheet will be included in the buy, no other items will be added.

There will be NO back orders.


The attached spreadsheet for the Triple Start Threads Group Buy will calculate your total cost for order based on the results of the thread under the Group Buy Research forum.

I have also rounded up the PayPal fee to 4.0% (only applicable if you’re NOT using the Friends and Family option in PayPal). Your PayPal fee may be less than what you pay, and this difference will be refunded. Once all payments are received and account settled to my satisfaction, I will issue PayPal refunds for any over payments. I’ll try to get as close to even as possible – anything less than $1.00 will not be refunded.

Please complete your order within the spreadsheet. Before you return the spreadsheet to me by email – change the excel file name as follows:
RealFirstName_RealLastName_TLTD_2018_Group_Final.x ls
I hope these terms are acceptable to everyone, and please feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns.

NOTE: If anyone does not have access to Microsoft Excel, please contact me and I will send you and alternate means of entering your order.

If you have downloaded the spreadsheet, please download it again as there were errors in the summation of the costs.
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File Type: xls TLTD_2018_Group_Final.xls (54.5 KB, 252 views)

Last edited by eharri446; 05-29-2018 at 10:46 AM. Reason: Updated the spreadsheet to correct the spreadsheet.
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Old 05-29-2018, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am planning to participate. I'll send the spreadsheet to your email account when you forward it by PM
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Old 05-29-2018, 11:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2018 Kit Less Pen Tap and Die Group Buy
I still want to participate and will email you the excel spreadsheet and will await your invoice so I can pay via PayPal F&F

thank you

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Old 05-29-2018, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How do I edit the xls file ? .... won't seem to take my input.

Do I have to, first of all, download and save the file before I try to edit ?

I have only the Microsoft Office Starter edition ... not the pay-for-play version ... of Excel.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by magpens View Post
How do I edit the xls file ? .... won't seem to take my input.

You have to open it in Excel. But you may also have to enable the macros - after opening the file, look in the upper left corner of the screen to see if there is a warning, and if so, click the 'Enable Content' box.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Group Buy

I would like the following:

M6.5x0.5 Plug Tap (Jowo#5)
M6.5x0.5 Bottoming Tap (Jowo#5)
M7.5x0.5 Plug Tap (Jowo#6)
M7.5x0.5 Bottoming Tap (Jowo#6)

Thank you for doing this.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Working on the spreadsheet.

Count me in for 13 x.8 bottom tap and die. Included insurance too. I haven't used Paypal's family and friends yet, so I will pay the 4% for fees.
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Old 05-29-2018, 02:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Im in for the 13x.8 plug tap and the 13x.8 die; no extra insurance.

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Old 05-29-2018, 03:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I am in but as I look at the spreadsheet it seems to come up with a total larger than the price listed. Also it appears that the insurance price is not showing when I use it. Maybe I am doing something wrong?

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Old 05-29-2018, 03:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Default Can't get the taps&dies at this time


Sorry but I can't be part of the group at this time. I was hoping to get started on kitless pens but between $$$'s and cognitive impairment issues can't get into right now. Thanks though for keeping me in the group loop.

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