Slimline with NO center band!!!!

jlmort1980 · 10-07-2010, 02:47 AM

Ok, can anyone help me!!! I have been trying to do a slimline with NO center band but everytime I try when I am done it matches up perfectly the way I turned it, but when I twist the pen to extend the ink then I have gaps in the joint where the band is supposed to go??? I use a squaring jig bit everytime to square my blanks, what the *$#(@( am I doing wrong? I have tried everything to fix it but nothing seems to work....

Andrew Arndts · 10-07-2010, 03:04 AM

you could try using a disk sander with a jig from PSI, to do the squaring up.
Actually your not doing anything wrong. It is the tools we use. I have discovered that most of the brass tubes aren't perfect from one to another. fraction in the thousandth of an inch in the ID of tubes can cause issues with the mandrel. Even the fact that the mandrel can be warped will make troubles.
So relax. Breath. It is not you.
Good Luck to ya.

rherrell · 10-07-2010, 04:47 AM

I have JUST the thing for you. I've made over 100 of these and they will work great for the problem you're having.

You can read about them and order one here.........
FOR SALE - Sanding Mills

mredburn · 10-07-2010, 06:08 AM

Also not mentioned is if the transmission is pressed in even a couple of thousandths of an inch off. Or if it isnt perfectly straight itself, it can cause or add to your problems.

Lenny · 10-07-2010, 07:05 AM

For me, using a tool like Rick Herrell makes, as a final step after the CA finish is applied and before buffing, has made a world of difference!

Christian · 10-07-2010, 07:42 AM

Have you tried it as a one piece? I did my first at the weekend and it looks the business (to me at any rate)

DaveConrad · 11-02-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmort1980

Ok, can anyone help me!!! I have been trying to do a slimline with NO center band but everytime I try when I am done it matches up perfectly the way I turned it, but when I twist the pen to extend the ink then I have gaps in the joint where the band is supposed to go??? I use a squaring jig bit everytime to square my blanks, what the *$#(@( am I doing wrong? I have tried everything to fix it but nothing seems to work....

Something I have switched to recently is using my drill press to square/trim the ends of my blanks. When my barrel trimmer gets just a little dull and I use my regular drill, it often leaves wavy edges instead of cutting perfectly smooth. Putting the Barrel trimming in your drill press seems to eliminate this completely. You have to have a soft touch to make sure you don't take too much off but it leaves a perfectly smooth and square surface. Might be worth a try for you.

Regards
Dave

pianomanpj · 11-02-2010, 11:53 AM

+1 on Rick Herrell's sanding mill. It works wonders.

sbell111 · 11-03-2010, 10:59 AM

+1 on the drill press suggestion. I haven't had this problem in several years, since we switched to using a drill press to trim up the tubed blank.

10-07-2010, 02:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
jlmort1980 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 103 Photos: 0	Slimline with NO center band!!!! Ok, can anyone help me!!! I have been trying to do a slimline with NO center band but everytime I try when I am done it matches up perfectly the way I turned it, but when I twist the pen to extend the ink then I have gaps in the joint where the band is supposed to go??? I use a squaring jig bit everytime to square my blanks, what the *$#(@( am I doing wrong? I have tried everything to fix it but nothing seems to work....

10-07-2010, 03:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Andrew Arndts Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: MI Photos: 0	you could try using a disk sander with a jig from PSI, to do the squaring up. Actually your not doing anything wrong. It is the tools we use. I have discovered that most of the brass tubes aren't perfect from one to another. fraction in the thousandth of an inch in the ID of tubes can cause issues with the mandrel. Even the fact that the mandrel can be warped will make troubles. So relax. Breath. It is not you. Good Luck to ya. __________________ Andrew
Andrew Arndts Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: MI Photos: 0

10-07-2010, 04:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
rherrell Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pilot Mtn., NC Posts: 4,935 Photos: 80	I have JUST the thing for you. I've made over 100 of these and they will work great for the problem you're having. You can read about them and order one here......... FOR SALE - Sanding Mills __________________ Rick Herrell Pilot Mtn.,NC "The pain of using a cheap tool lingers long after the joy of saving money has passed"

10-07-2010, 06:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
mredburn Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estero Fl. Posts: 4,212 Photos: 82	Also not mentioned is if the transmission is pressed in even a couple of thousandths of an inch off. Or if it isnt perfectly straight itself, it can cause or add to your problems. __________________ Life occasionally offers us the opportunity to make very very hard choices. I have had such offers. Level 6 Pen Wizard, smoke, mirror and slight of hand enabled. Mike. http://www.silverpenparts.com

11-02-2010, 11:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
pianomanpj Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Augusta, Maine, USA. Posts: 702 Photos: 18	+1 on Rick Herrell's sanding mill. It works wonders. __________________ Roger A. Madore Augusta, Maine "Make a fire for a man and keep him warm for a day, or set him on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life..."

10-07-2010, 07:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lenny Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Searsport, Maine Posts: 3,075 Photos: 47	For me, using a tool like Rick Herrell makes, as a final step after the CA finish is applied and before buffing, has made a world of difference!

10-07-2010, 07:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Christian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 69 Photos: 0	Have you tried it as a one piece? I did my first at the weekend and it looks the business (to me at any rate)

11-03-2010, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
sbell111 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 2,670 Photos: 1	+1 on the drill press suggestion. I haven't had this problem in several years, since we switched to using a drill press to trim up the tubed blank. __________________ Steve Franklin, TN Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not. -Emerson

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