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Old 11-20-2018, 07:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Upcoming Birthday Bash Contests.

The 15th annual Birthday Bash is coming. For those of you new to IAP, the Bash is a month long celebration with all types of contests for making pens and other contests with puzzles, trivia, shop photos, and other pen related stuff.
This year we plan on having the following contests. The actual rules will be posted In January for public input and clarifications or changes. The Bash officially starts off Feb. 1st.

The proposed contests are.

Slimline, this will be run by Cody Walker, Cwalker935

Pretty Wood Pen, ran by BrianG

Kitless, ran by SteveJ

The Freestyle Pen contest Taken.

Advanced Casting Contest -taken

Pen Box /Pen stand contest -taken

The Youth Contests. Stonepecker

New this year,

Pretty Resin pen. taken

Segmented Pen contest

The contests as listed are open for discussion. You can throw out your thoughts and recommendations.

I have combined the Pen stand and Box contest this year, we havent had much participation after the first year they were held. Im thinking you will be able to enter one of each.

The segmented pen contest will be for hand segmenting only, it will not allow 3d printed forms filled in with resin. You would be allowed to combine casting and segmenting on the same pen. 3d printing, cnc and laser work would not be allowed in this contest.

The pretty resin pen contest:
I see this as a contest where you can purchase or cast a resin yourself and make a pen. Maybe just resin, no stickers or cards or other combos. Maybe we should only allow cast by member blanks to be used.

Please post your thoughts and recommendations. We will consider them even if we dont use them. You may bring up valid points we had not considered.
Let us know what you think!
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Absolutely we should only allow resin cast blanks by the person entering. That would not be fair to use others blanks and that goes for all contests.

Will you bring back the front page contest??

Will you bring back the ugly pen contest??
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No we will not be bringing back the "Front Page" page contest. Being selected for the front page is its own reward. The Ugly pen contest may or may not be back at some time. We continue to have difficulty keeping peoples feelings from getting hurt. We may run it again in the future or possible the "Difficult to write with Pen Contest" We are trying to keep the number of contests down to a certain level. The reasoning was we were getting to diverse in our offerings and we were seeing a reduction in the participation of the contests. Its difficult to justify continuing a contest where only 3 - 6 people enter. We also have to have volunteers to run all the contests as well.
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I think the resin pen contest should allow for purchased blanks. I would like for folks to be able to submit pens made out if resin even if they didn't cast them themselves, otherwise it becomes a blank making contest. To me that is not very different than purchasing a wood blank for the Pretty Wood Pen Contest. However, I think there should also be a contest to show casting skills, or is that what the advanced casting contest is?
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I have mixed thoughts on the Resin Pen contest. We used to have 3 separate casting contests but participation dropped so low we eliminated two of them. If we allow "purchased" blanks as well as self cast, that were limited to colors and excluded things like clear cast labels, embedded objects or 3d printed patterns etc. it would open the contest up to more people than those that cast. We can limit it to blanks cast by the pen maker, but that may deter some entries. Is the contest focus about skilled casters or more towards something that anyone can enter.
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My opinion:

Pretty Resin = Pretty wood to me. If we don't care about the source of the wood then we shouldn't care about the source of the resin in a pretty resin contest. Use the prettiest resin you can make or buy.

How to further qualify gets tricky. If you say 100% resin then you only get clear blanks (dyes, pigments and such aren't resin). You could say 100% resin including coloring agents and limit the coloring agents to dyes, pigments and micas.

You would probably want to prohibit any assembly in the blank fabrication (e.g. a segmented resin blank).

May want to make disclosure of blank source a requirement. Voters can decide on the merits of self made versus commercial pretty resins if they think that is important.

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My opinion:

Pretty Resin = Pretty wood to me. If we don't care about the source of the wood then we shouldn't care about the source of the resin in a pretty resin contest. Use the prettiest resin you can make or buy.

How to further qualify gets tricky. If you say 100% resin then you only get clear blanks (dyes, pigments and such aren't resin). You could say 100% resin including coloring agents and limit the coloring agents to dyes, pigments and micas.

You would probably want to prohibit any assembly in the blank fabrication (e.g. a segmented resin blank).

May want to make disclosure of blank source a requirement. Voters can decide on the merits of self made versus commercial pretty resins if they think that is important.

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Could do the same with wood source . Of course many forget to identify their woods , and probably forget who the supplier was also .
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It may not be necessary to disclose the manufacturer, just that they bought it rather than made it themselves. if thats the way the contest is run.

Oh and Thank You Tony for jumping in again this year. I will probably move your post over to a thread on Donations when I get it posted.
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Well I will come back in about the resin VS pretty wood. Here is the difference one is nature made and other is man made. No way to control the look of a wood blank but resin blanks are all controlled by man. It is a man made product. Makes no difference where you buy the wood from and that has no factor in voting. It will factor into a resin blank. The ideas of these contests are to go up against your peers to test your skills not someone else's. Let them enter their own blank if they want in. To throw even further confusion in what about tru-stone blanks. Where do they play. Not a fan of the pretty resin contest.

Participation has been down and it should be the other way around. Just look at the number of new members joining every day and every year. Out surpasses any time in the history of this site I bet. But it is a different breed of members. In an out members like I call them. But that is a topic for another day. Will say this there are many more avenues to join and get info and talk pens than when this forum started. People's interest levels are probably not the same. The front runners and sort of leaders and spokespeople that use to be here are dwindling. Keeping people interested and wanting to keep coming back falls on the individual.
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Lot's of opinions on what you should do. I say whomever runs the contest, makes the rules. If you don't like rules, don't enter, or run your own contest. I'm planning on making a few pens and don't care how I do. I turn for fun.
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