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Old 01-26-2018, 07:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Done....
I'll wait in tomorrow so I don't miss the mail man.....

Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to miss future mugs as it is now just a bit too steep. Over $60 for a shipped mug plus import duty plus handling charge.....pity, but I understand the reasoning.
Handling charge?
When an international parcel arrives in the UK it may ( most often ) be subject to import tax. Around 20%. The handling charge ...around 12 is from the delivery company....either Parcel Force or Royal Mail.....( two sections of the UK Post Office ) for recovering that charge and delivering the charge notice. We then go to the depot and pay the charges before receiving the goods.

This is one of the reasons why there are less and less international pen swaps. The maker puts a 'value' to the pen and the recipient then has to pay duty on that value. The kicker is that the charge is also based on the Total value. So if an item was valued at say $35 plus $25 for shipping then we get charged on the $60 for duty and then the handling fee on top. All adds up to an expensive item.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:08 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Done....
I'll wait in tomorrow so I don't miss the mail man.....

Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to miss future mugs as it is now just a bit too steep. Over $60 for a shipped mug plus import duty plus handling charge.....pity, but I understand the reasoning.
Handling charge?
When an international parcel arrives in the UK it may ( most often ) be subject to import tax. Around 20%. The handling charge ...around 12 is from the delivery company....either Parcel Force or Royal Mail.....( two sections of the UK Post Office ) for recovering that charge and delivering the charge notice. We then go to the depot and pay the charges before receiving the goods.

This is one of the reasons why there are less and less international pen swaps. The maker puts a 'value' to the pen and the recipient then has to pay duty on that value. The kicker is that the charge is also based on the Total value. So if an item was valued at say $35 plus $25 for shipping then we get charged on the $60 for duty and then the handling fee on top. All adds up to an expensive item.
I see the issue clearly now. If there's a solution to the problem, I'm all ears.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Sure Jeff, there are solutions or options. But you're gonna be sorry you asked !!

First is the common practice of asking the sender to put a lesser value to the item. I'm not keen on this as it's mail fraud.

Second option is to ask the sender to be a bit more realistic when putting a value to a pen, for instance. If we were to swap pens then perhaps the true cost is really just the kit. I have done a pen swap where the sender has put a ridiculous value to the pen. Cost me a fortune in the end.


Now, I love all my mugs... I have a full set of at least one of each. I also have a couple of special ones where I was lucky to get 'special' numbers. But to be honest, the only special numbers now are reserved for auction. Those are well outside my league. Now I believe an UNnumbered mug to be be more valuable to a random number. A cool hand made mug without any numbering is just that, a cool hand made mug. If it says xxx of 150 underneath then it isn't so unique anymore as there are another 149 around I chose 101 this year just for the humour factor (as in Room 101 )

I think I have around 15 or 16 mugs now. That is a fair amount of dosh in anyone's book. Bearing in mind that International members were encouraged to chip in a bit more for shipping too, when they were $50.

However, now when my new mug arrives, I take a pic of the whole group and then put the whole lot away in the bottom of a cabinet until the next one arrives. I have two of the original white ones ( my favourites ) that I use every day though.

The next option is to just get periodic or alternate years commemorative mugs.

Just for interests sake, how does this years international purchase compare to previous years?

Ok, apologies for the mini rant Jeff.
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Got mine ordered with no problem. Had to add a goodie or 2
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Worked like a charm. And thank you for the lower price.
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Sure Jeff, there are solutions or options. But you're gonna be sorry you asked !!

First is the common practice of asking the sender to put a lesser value to the item. I'm not keen on this as it's mail fraud.

Second option is to ask the sender to be a bit more realistic when putting a value to a pen, for instance. If we were to swap pens then perhaps the true cost is really just the kit. I have done a pen swap where the sender has put a ridiculous value to the pen. Cost me a fortune in the end.


Now, I love all my mugs... I have a full set of at least one of each. I also have a couple of special ones where I was lucky to get 'special' numbers. But to be honest, the only special numbers now are reserved for auction. Those are well outside my league. Now I believe an UNnumbered mug to be be more valuable to a random number. A cool hand made mug without any numbering is just that, a cool hand made mug. If it says xxx of 150 underneath then it isn't so unique anymore as there are another 149 around I chose 101 this year just for the humour factor (as in Room 101 )

I think I have around 15 or 16 mugs now. That is a fair amount of dosh in anyone's book. Bearing in mind that International members were encouraged to chip in a bit more for shipping too, when they were $50.

However, now when my new mug arrives, I take a pic of the whole group and then put the whole lot away in the bottom of a cabinet until the next one arrives. I have two of the original white ones ( my favourites ) that I use every day though.

The next option is to just get periodic or alternate years commemorative mugs.

Just for interests sake, how does this years international purchase compare to previous years?

Ok, apologies for the mini rant Jeff.
Sorry you asked yet??
I'm never sorry to get good input!

We typically have about 15 international shipments, and with 60 orders complete right now, we have 5, so pretty much on track.

I have previously used our cost as the value for international shipments, thinking that was an honest approach. That's not possible with the new cart, because it's all automated. At least I have not found a "value for customs purposes" field.

That's an interesting perspective on the numbered versus unnumbered mugs. Unnumbered would be vastly easier for me, so maybe I'll consider that next year.
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:45 AM   #29 (permalink)
 
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I like the idea of unnumbered mugs. I've never cared what number I get, so I always wait until the end to reserve, hopefully allowing the people that do care about numbers the chance to get the mug they want. Unnumbered mugs would be much less hassle, I think.
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