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Old 03-02-2018, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hello fellow Minnesota turners.

The next BASH is 11 months from now. It really should be the biggest and best Bash ever. However, it needs your help. I am already looking at prizes for the Kid's Contests. As of right now, I have plenty of WOOD blanks. For those of you who don't know me......I watch for bargains here. I shop and cut blanks from woods I find. I order woods from over seas. WOOD is not the problem.

What is the problem is lack of other blanks and items for the prize boxes. Pen kits, bushings, tools, glues, items we all use when making our pens.

Some the items can be from Harbor Freight. I watch for when things are on sale. They might only let me buy one a day........but I am willing to walk in 5 days in a row to get what is needed.

Some things we can make. Some things can be something as simple as a book we no longer need or have out grown.

What I am asking of the Minnesota Chapter is for the members to take a look at what you can do to help. Got some kits you no longer make? Some poured blanks you no long want? A tool that needs a cleaning and a new handle? What else can you think of? Let me know. Give me an idea or help how you can.

I am asking now so we have time to make it happen. Not going to be rushing around during the holidays. Not here to bother anyone. Just wanting everyone to do what they can.

Send me a PM and let's talk. I am willing to listen.
Thank you for everything.
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Old 03-03-2018, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I didn't see hardly anything for the Bash this year. Did it go on as normal and I just missed it?
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Hello follow turners.

Just a little "BUMP" to remind everyone that the Feb. BASH #15 is just a little over 6 months away.

So far I have heard from just one member of the IAP and he wasn't from Minnesota. Be on the lookout for anything that the kids can use. Donate what you can.......everything helps.

Thank you all!
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I know this is going to sound harsh to some but it is something I have thought about for a few years here and these are just my thoughts. I have not brought it up before but this seems the perfect thread to do so. Again these are my thoughts and my reasons. You can agree or disagree but do not come at me with harsh words because I will fire back.

I believe the Bash celebration should be one that is designed for the adults only. It is a celebration of members here and not kids. They have nothing to do with this site. The summer Extravaganza is totally different and is designed for summer fun. Kids are off from school and have time to play with their parents in the shop if they so choose. Gear all contests around the kids in the summer as far as I am concerned. The prizes that are chosen for kids should be kid related and not blanks or kits or gift certificates. We all know who is behind these pens being made and the prizes basically go to the parents. Have gifts that are kid related like video games or certificates to McDonalds or other things. I have no kids so there are those more qualified to make suggestions.

I know what you are thinking, because I have no kids is why I am bringing this up and being of this mind. Not the case. I am sure there are others that may think like me but are afraid to say so. My concern is with kid contests it takes away from other more adult contests. Last year there was no library contest or front page pen contest and there is talk in alternating pen stand and pen box contest. This should not happen for the Bash. I am sure other contests can be filled in as well.

I like looking at the kids pens but if we just limit them to the summer affair what is the harm.???

OK I said it and now the feedback will follow. I am sorry if I put this in a thread that was not intended but I felt it relevant.
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OK I said it and now the feedback will follow.
I respectfully disagree with you JT. I fully support any avenue we can incorporate younger folks to get interested in pen turning/ wood turning, and other examples of wood working.

There are MANY, MANY things involved in these activities that can benefit them in later life.

I won't go into specifics of each your points, but I believe your comments are not accurate. But, you are welcome to your opinion.
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OK I said it and now the feedback will follow.
I respectfully disagree with you JT. I fully support any avenue we can incorporate younger folks to get interested in pen turning/ wood turning, and other examples of wood working.

There are MANY, MANY things involved in these activities that can benefit them in later life.

I won't go into specifics of each your points, but I believe your comments are not accurate. But, you are welcome to your opinion.
Mark I respect your opinion too but I am not saying totally do away with kids entering contests I am just saying being we have 2 each year now why not make the summer one for kids and the fall one for adults. Lets be real here, how many kids go on to become pen turners and if they do how many are going to remember any of this. look how many adults join in the summer as opposed to the fall. If this were true how come we do not see more pens turned by kids throughout the year. It is only contest time and the parents prod them into it. If parents need to bond with their kids more than do it more throughout the year.

Again these are my thoughts only and hopefully others will chime in on this as you did which I am glad to see and thank you for the feedback.
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As with everyone this is only my personal opinion. Maybe I'm seeing too much good in people but I find it hard to believe that any kid who enjoys turning wouldn't see full use of whatever prize they receive. As a recent first time parent it bugs me to think that there are parents who would use a contest and their children as an excuse to get some prize.

As to your other point that the parent has more to do with the pen than the child, well that I could believe but I think it comes from a good place.

I would love to see more contest but I noticed this year only a few people even volunteer to run a contest. Surely a kids contest can't take that much away from the others. Honestly lately it seems kinda dead around but as I've only been around for a little while I can't be sure.

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Hello follow turners.

Just a little "BUMP" to remind everyone that the Feb. BASH #15 is just a little over 6 months away.

So far I have heard from just one member of the IAP and he wasn't from Minnesota. Be on the lookout for anything that the kids can use. Donate what you can.......everything helps.

Thank you all!
Wayne
Thanks for the reminder Wayne! I'll see what I can put together this year.
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Without Kids, this hobby is dead. You just have old guys talking about pens they used to make. But they never make pens. The kids are the future, and I'll support them any way I can. Who cares if it's the bash or summer time. And if you don't agree with me, you can volunteer to run a contest. Make up your own rules for it, and keep kids out. Just my .02.
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Hello JT.
I do respect your opinion and right to choose how you feel.

I would like to point of a few things that I am sure you are not aware of.
1)....the kids contests are not limited to the children of members. If you want to, go find a child that has an interest in turning and teach them. Then help them to enter the contest.

2)....I have been running the children's BASH contests because I have the time in the winter to do this. During the summer, I work away from my home, (out of state) and run an engraving business. My free time is in the winter,

3)....I believe all prizes are for the children. I would never accuse any parent/grandparent of not following the rules or intent of these contests.

4)....the prizes we send out are to educate and challenge the winners. This is the way to promote and keep the hobby alive. We need to help make the hobby grow.


The kids are my personal thing. I want to help them to enjoy the hobby and learn. I do know that the kids I teach, learn more then just turning. They have learned how to care for tools.....to organize things in their lives. They begin to see safety issues around them. They start to care for others and not make this a "Me" thing anymore. Most important, they build memories that hopefully they can look back on 20-30 years from now......and smile.
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