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Old 12-22-2017, 01:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I'm pretty sure that the PM and the Shop Fox are the same base machine, However when you compare the specs, PM wins hands down:

1. PM is variable speed; Shop Fox is not.
2. PM comes with QCTP; Shop Fox does not.
3. PM has quick change chuck; Shop Fox does not specify, but from picture assume it is threaded like Grizzly.

You pay a few hundred bucks more for the PM when you figure in shipping, but I would consider it a no brainer for the features and customer service that the customers here have reported.

(Not a PM customer yet, but hope to be soon.)

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A quick change chuck would clinch the deal for me. Quick change tool post can be added at any time, the quick change chuck not. I had a 12X36 with threaded chuck. Not good.
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Skip,
The DRO is magnetic on the x and y axis....the z axis is on the readout but is not hooked up. My issue with it is no matter what I do it does not begin to register on the DRO until I am about .002 into the cut......
It is helpful to me being a rookie, but I always have to remember that it is off and somewhat confusing. I called CS and they helped me get it to just .002 which was better than where it started, but for the cost, I just don't think it's worth it.
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Rockytime,

I agree on the QCTP. I only mentioned it because it is pretty much a necessity, and by the time you buy one it puts the cost of the machines that much closer.

Regarding Skiprat's comment, notice that for another hundred bucks you can kick the bed length to 30 inches.

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Conundrum....

I think you guys are right, QCTP and VS are higher on the pole than the DRO. I do like the the PM, but.

I can either buy a less expensive one and get a bunch of tooling/accessories and dive right in, or I can get the More expensive one and build my tooling base slowly. Perhaps I'll save for another month or so - That will give me time to research what tooling I will need to get started. I would rather get the best one I can afford now, than start small and wish I had a bigger, more powerful one later. :) decisions decisions.
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What ever you get make sure you get variable speed. I have the grizzly g0602 and wish I would of paid for the one with variable speed. I hate changing belts.
I probably will be in over $500 upgrading it my, just need to find a motor for it again.
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The PM also has a bottom end speed of 50 rpm which makes threading easier but it’s 360 lbs. I’m also looking at the PM or the LMS Deluxe. Have not decided. LMS is about 80 miles north of me but the bottom end speed is 100 and 250 lbs.
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You will never regret buying a twist lock spindle. Screw on chucks and bolt on chucks are a royal pain. But that is just me. However, Little Machine Shop or Grizzly will do a good job.
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What was the final choice?? I’m still deciding between LMS and PM.
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What was the final choice?? Iím still deciding between LMS and PM.
I'm probably going to wait until I can afford the PM. Another month or 2 probably. No DRO but it is a step up all around for only $650 more. So by the time I decide I'l probably have enough for the PM. :)
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