New member looking for advice. - International Association of Penturners
     International Association of Penturners
Pens for Service Members
 
Support The IAP

Go Back   International Association of Penturners > Community Forums > Metal Lathes
  Forgot Password
Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Logged on members can hide ads!

Welcome to penturners.org!

You've found the home of The International Association of Penturners. You are currently viewing our site as a guest, which gives you limited access to view discussions, photos, and library articles.

Consider joining our community today. You'll have full access to all of our content, be able to enter our contests, find local chapters near you, and post your questions and share your experience with our members all over the world.

Membership is completely free!!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-24-2018, 08:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kenosha Wi USA
Posts: 36
Photos: 28

Default New member looking for advice.

Hello all. I started turning pens a year ago in January. I have about 300 pens turned and am getting bored with kits so it's time to move up and get a metal lathe. I purchased one on ebay that is the same model as Grizzlys G0768 it's in the process of being returned since the motor doesnt work so I am looking to buy another, I am leaning towards Grizzlys G0768, 500.00 more than the one on ebay but I'd assume it will actually work. I have a small shop in my basement which is very hard to move equipment into so a midi lathe is all I can fit and afford. I did do quite a bit of looking around and that seems to have the most features. My budget is around $1,500.00. Am I on the right track or is there a machine out there thats better and in my price range? I'm not interested in used. TIA for any help.
Carl Pepka is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 09:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
Dalecamino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Indianapolis, In.
Posts: 12,241
Photos: 219

Default

This is what I use
https://www.micromark.com/MicroLux-7x16-Mini-Lathe

It has served me well. Good luck
__________________
Chuck Hutchings
Indianapolis, In.
You can see some pens at http:www.facebook.com/chuckspens
Dalecamino is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 10:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 2,242
Photos: 41

Default

Like Chuck, I use the micromark 7x16. I bought it in 2012 for $750 on sale. It does almost everything I would want with pens. What it won't do to my satisfaction is turn stainless and titanium. The 7x lathes just aren't beefy / rigid enough (in my opinion, but I'm open to being convinced it's my lack of skill that is really at fault).

At $750 I would buy it again. At current prices I would be tempted to look at an 8x16 or 8x20. In my opinion, whatever lathe you buy that originates in a chinese factory will need a lot of tweaking to get it work with any kind of precision / accuracy for pen making. I know I was able to do it with the micro-mark (but they may or may not be made the same way they were in 2012), I'm don't know what could be done with any of the current crop of 8x lathes. I would spend a lot of time on machinist web sites reading current reviews before plonking down a thousand or two .

One other thought. The lathe is just the start. DRO, QCTP and all the other stuff that you are going to need (want) adds up fast. If I had to choose between a bare bones 8 x or the micromark 7x16 with all the extras added on for the same (or less) price I would pick the micromark again (as long as I could live without turning titanium or stainless (and I can)). I wouldn't buy things like DRO, QCTP or tooling from micromark. Little Machine Shop has better prices, quality and service (but lower spec lathes when I was shopping).

Micromark has sales around the holidays. I don't know if that would get you a better price than their "super buy" price.

Ed
Likes: (2)
Ed McDonnell is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Advertisement
Old 10-24-2018, 12:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 91
Photos: 0

Default

Well i'm sure glad i did'nt order that one after you did them Carl.. after seeing you FB post and looking on ebay I was pretty much sold on it.

..the quest for old US Iron continues
Likes: (1)
rsieracki is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 01:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kenosha Wi USA
Posts: 36
Photos: 28

Default

Thanks, Dale, I'll check it out. Also now looking at the LMS 7x16.
Carl Pepka is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 02:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Owensboro, KY
Posts: 306
Photos: 0

Default

I have the MicroMark as well and at the time I bought it, it was far and away the best 7x machine out there. Today, I'm not so sure. The MicroMark seems to be the same machine now as it was then. Little Machine Shop on the other hand has their 5100 hi torque mini-lathe at a comparable price with some upgrades including a 4 inch chuck on a 4 inch mount which will certainly make changes easier.

The go-to guy on this stuff is Frank Hoose, founder of: mini-lathe.com home page. if you go there you can find his original review of the MicroMark--which is what induced me to buy mine. I don't know how much if any time he is devoting to the website. He seems to have migrated mostly to YouTube. If you go there, you can find a multi-part review of the LMS 5100. The first part was posted on 11/16/2015. Definitely worth a look.

Hope this helps.

Bill

Last edited by bmachin; 10-24-2018 at 02:03 PM.
bmachin is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 02:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kenosha Wi USA
Posts: 36
Photos: 28

Default

Good advice, Ed. I've been bingeing on every vid I can find.
Carl Pepka is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 02:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kenosha Wi USA
Posts: 36
Photos: 28

Default

I just got finished watching all 10 of his vid's on youtube on the LMS, nice package even comes with the quick change tool holder.


Quote:
Originally Posted by bmachin View Post
I have the MicroMark as well and at the time I bought it, it was far and away the best 7x machine out there. Today, I'm not so sure. The MicroMark seems to be the same machine now as it was then. Little Machine Shop on the other hand has their 5100 hi torque mini-lathe at a comparable price with some upgrades including a 4 inch chuck on a 4 inch mount which will certainly make changes easier.

The go-to guy on this stuff is Frank Hoose, founder of: mini-lathe.com home page. if you go there you can find his original review of the MicroMark--which is what induced me to buy mine. I don't know how much if any time he is devoting to the website. He seems to have migrated mostly to YouTube. If you go there, you can find a multi-part review of the LMS 5100. The first part was posted on 11/16/2015. Definitely worth a look.

Hope this helps.

Bill
Carl Pepka is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 02:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kenosha Wi USA
Posts: 36
Photos: 28

Default

What a nightmare that seller is. Wanted to partial refund me 100.00, couldnt seem to understand what a motor is to a lathe. Finally they wanted to give me a new motor, new circuit board and 100.00, which I refused. I was born at night but it wasnt last night. Talked to ebay and if I dont have a shipping label today they will get on them tomorrow. The seller did say they accept the return and will call their boss to have him call someone to pick it up. The thing has no serial number so no way it can have the 2 year warranty they proclaim.


Quote:
Originally Posted by rsieracki View Post
Well i'm sure glad i did'nt order that one after you did them Carl.. after seeing you FB post and looking on ebay I was pretty much sold on it.

..the quest for old US Iron continues
Carl Pepka is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 10-24-2018, 06:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
More4dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,033
Photos: 5

Default

Don't forget to budget for tooling, sometimes as much as the lathe. Little Machine Shop is your friend for comparisons, tooling, and repair parts. I've used a Seig 7 x 10 mini metal lathe for pens for about 3 years now (HF for $400). It works but I wish it were longer for drilling. I'm changing the bed to a 16" and upgrading the bearings to thrust bearings. As is I have turned aluminum, brass, copper, Stainless Steel (304 and 440), O1 and W1 tool steel, and Stainless Damascus in addition to wood and acrylics. Light cuts and a good cutting fluid with a reasonable feed rates have not been a problem. Quick change tool post is a great addition (almost a must). HSS bits give a better finish than the carbide and learning to grind them for each use is good to know. Carbide was only needed on the SS Damascus due to it's hardness. You'll need to decide if your only using it for pens or something bigger down the road. A 7" x 14" or 7" x 16" would be plenty for pens.

Danny
More4dan is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Related Content
Logged on members can hide ads
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:58 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

Content Copyright © 2003-2018 by Penturners.org, LLC; All Rights Reserved
Terms Of Service   Acceptable Use Policy