Craft Coat (CC) - A new water-based finishing product - International Association of Penturners
     International Association of Penturners
Pens for Service Members
 
Support The IAP

Go Back   International Association of Penturners > IAP Marketplace > Market Research
  Forgot Password
Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Logged on members can hide ads!

Welcome to penturners.org!

You've found the home of The International Association of Penturners. You are currently viewing our site as a guest, which gives you limited access to view discussions, photos, and library articles.

Consider joining our community today. You'll have full access to all of our content, be able to enter our contests, find local chapters near you, and post your questions and share your experience with our members all over the world.

Membership is completely free!!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2014, 08:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
Crashmph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: South Riding, VA
Posts: 1,414
Photos: 0

Default Craft Coat (CC) - A new water-based finishing product

I have enough testers now... I will keep you all posted how this "turns out". Additionally, if you want to share your sample with friends to get a bigger pool of results, feel free to do so.

Please post your results to this thread.

Hello IAP,

I am working with a cousin to help out with a product of his; he owns Eco Advance. The product is called Craft Coat (I have been calling it CC for short). It is a water-based finishing product similar to Wood Turners Finish (WTF), but it produces a much nicer and durable finish like a CA finish does.


About Echo Advance:
Eco Advancements, Inc. is dedicated to the advancement of environmentally safe coatings, sealers, paints and cleaners. Our company is committed to the development and manufacturing of products that help preserve the environment without sacrificing performance. All Eco Advance products, including raw materials, and even packaging are made in the USA.

We have our own in-house R&D and quality control departments and a substantial portion of our resources are continually invested in to new products and technologies. Among our team’s accomplishments is the invention of the first waterborne oil modified coatings to surpass EPA environmental requirements. We also invented the revolutionary instant-cure UV coatings technology.

Our products are manufactured, stored and shipped from a 40,000 square foot state-of-the art manufacturing facility centrally located in Arkansas. We are one of the fastest growing eco products companies in the country and our products are widely sold and used in the US, Canada, Australia, Brazil, and Malaysia.
craftcoat-quart-505x595.jpg
I have been using CC on my pens, stoppers, pepper grinders, etc... for several months now. For me, CC has produced a very shinny and durable finish the same as a CA finish. It works especially well on oily woods like cocobolo. I did my own blind testing with pens finished with CA and pens finished with CC. I have passed these pens around to friends and turners to ask for then to find a difference, and none has been found in the finished product.

CC is a water based product and does not have the adverse side effects skin and eye irritant. It can be applied similarly to how CA is applied on the lathe in layers minus any accelerate or boiled linseed oil (BLO), or it does very well as a dip solution. If you wash your bushings with warm soapy water soon after application, all of the dried CC finish will wash right off.

Here is the website description for CC:
"Craft Coat is a waterborne linseed oil modified wood finish that self-crosslinks when exposed to oxygen to develop an extremely durable film that exhibits outstanding scratch, mar, water, and chemical resistance. It has the depth and gloss of an oil modified urethane (O.M.U.) and is formulated to ensure maximum protection on any type of wood, especially hard-to-coat dense and oily exotic hardwoods. It exhibits excellent adhesion on all types of wood including exotic and naturally oily woods that typically require preparation before coating. Craft Coat does not have a solvent base so it dries very quickly and is sandable in 1-1/2 to 2 hours."


Right now it is available for purchase form his site for $26/qt. That is cheaper than WTF from Woodcraft by a few bucks. It is available in a Gloss, Semi-Gloss, and Satin. It does not matter with one you use for pens, stoppers, and such as the typical wet-sand finish will gloss any of them. If you want to use it for other projects as a clear coat sealant, then you can pick out your desired shine.
The sandable times listed are only for dip times. If applied in layers like a CA finish, the try dry times are very short.


Disclaimer: As to not skew any possible results, I will not be posting any of my pens with this finish at this time.

I am looking for 12 volunteers with good experience at CA finishing to test and review this product. I am specifically targeting people who are good at CA finishing but tired of the fumes from the CA process. The volunteers will be shipped a bottle of the CC product free of charge to finish some pens, stoppers, or other turned projects with it. I am looking for you honest assessment of the product.

I am looking for information the following areas:
· Finish quality
· Odor/fumes during process
· Ease of application
· Time for completion of application of finish
· Method used for application (dip, layered, etc…)
· What did you use the finish on (pens, stoppers, etc...)
· Feel free to add any other information you deem appropriate to the review

I will start a new thread for the review results when the samples have shipped. Please PM me your contact details. If any others have used this product in the past, please post your experiences with it as well.

Thank you,
Michael Hardin
__________________
If I could make a living out of my wood shop, I would quit my day job immediately!

Last edited by Crashmph; 01-27-2014 at 02:17 PM.
Crashmph is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 09:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
Dan Masshardt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Posts: 4,794
Photos: 0

Default

Wow, this sounds really cool. I'm excited about the different alternatives coming out.

Your claim of ca like shine is interesting. This has been the shortcoming of many of the alternatives in the past, IMO.

There just doesn't seem anything quite as impressive as ca. Although I've been somewhat impressed with pens plus. If durability comes through.

May I ask, with cc, how many coats do you apply on the lathe to get the desired build? The polishing process is then similar to ca? MM and or liquid polish?

Very interesting!
Dan Masshardt is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 09:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
lorbay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: BC. Canada
Posts: 2,957
Photos: 134

Default

I would love to give it a try.

Lin.
__________________
"If you come to a fork in the road Take It."
Yogi Berra.
lorbay is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Advertisement
Old 01-22-2014, 09:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
The Penguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,133
Photos: 0

Default

How does this product work on larger turnings like bowls?

I would be willing to give it a try...and I have a friend (that also works at Woodcraft) that uses WTF almost exclusively on bowls. I bet he would give you a fair review for that use.
The Penguin is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Morris,ILL.
Posts: 119
Photos: 0

Default cc test

Michael, I would be interested in trying it. I do alot of Ca finish and have been turning for about 5 years. Pens, wine stoppers, and other small projects. Regards, Dave
dudstuen is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 09:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
ElMostro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX.
Posts: 1,924
Photos: 24

Default

I'd be interested. I have developed a reaction to the CA fumes that puts me out of commission for about 3 days (almost like flu symptoms accompanied with a rash) every time I use it so I have pretty much quit turning pens that need a finish. I have some new blanks turned and standing by for a finish so I have been looking for other options.
Eugene.
__________________
Maker of the "Amalgam-Mutt" Pen Blanks
http://www.muttblanks.com/index.html
ElMostro is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 09:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
LanceD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Houma, La, USA.
Posts: 1,593
Photos: 50

Default

I'm very interested in trying It out myself.
__________________
LanceD is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 10:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Brandon, MS
Posts: 357
Photos: 0

Default

If you need another tester, I would be interested in doing so. I have to buy very expensive odorless CA because the regular stuff affects me adversely. I have used WTF and Doctor's finishes, with some limited success. I still like the CA shine, but not the fumes.
Dave Bledsoe
dbledsoe is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 10:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
Carl Fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Fort Mill, South Carolina
Photos: 9

Default

I'll give it a go. I've done my time with CA and after perfecting my technique I've actually moved away from it for various reasons. I've been testing various alternatives but still not 100% happy with anything I've tried yet.
__________________

Last edited by Carl Fisher; 01-22-2014 at 10:15 AM.
Likes: (1)
Carl Fisher is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Old 01-22-2014, 10:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
Dan Masshardt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Posts: 4,794
Photos: 0

Default

I didn't say so in my first post, but I'd be willing do do some fairly extensive usage of it promptly.
Dan Masshardt is offline   Reply With Quote Top
Related Content
Logged on members can hide ads
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

Content Copyright © 2003-2016 by Penturners.org, LLC; All Rights Reserved
Terms Of Service   Acceptable Use Policy