Are you a "guy"??

[ed4copies]

I know I am!!

Instructions are for sissys! Gimme the kit, get outta the way!! Pen coming up soon!!!

Well, a couple people have called me about the Cartridge "Click" pen. So, last night I took a kit, went home and made one. Knew there might be issues, so I printed the instructions and, as could be expected, left them on my desk at the office.

BUT, I have made THOUSANDS of pens, WHO needs INSTRUCTIONS!!!

Well, I ruined the "click" mechanism, constructing the pieces. So, this morning I READ the instructions. I now see what I did wrong--so to save others, the LAST components to be installed are the (Is the??) click plunger assembly. (Top of the pen)

If you do this kit by installing the click mechanism, then adding the center trim ring, it will destroy the click mechanism (YES, I AM SURE).

Our on-line instructions, provided by Berea ARE correct---if you read them. I will be changing the instructions on Exotics to show this information in RED BOLD, this weekend.

We will also send out warnings with this kit. When properly assembled, I have been told it is a nice click assembly--by the end of the weekend, I hope to confirm that!!!

BEWARE!!

Any other kits I should know about, where the instructions are IMPORTANT!!!!

 

[workinforwood]

measure once, cut twice.

 

[terryf]

A "real guy" would have taken two kits home Ed!! :tongue::tongue:

 

[Rob73]

As the saying goes -- "When all else fails, read the instructions."

 

[pianomanpj]

It takes a real man to admit he made a mistake, and an even bigger one to share what he learned with others.

Thanks for the heads-up, Ed!

 

[thewishman]

You know, Ed, you could have sold more cartridge kits if you'd kept you mouth shut.

 

[MartinPens]

I am a man and I don't mind instructions. I don't mind ignoring them or rewriting them to make them better! : )
Give me a decent caliper, a lathe, some wood and a sharp tool and I'm up for the challenge - unless it's a click pen! Then I read the instructions!!!!

Martin

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[penhead]

What the heck are these 'instructions' things that you be talking about 8>)

 

[ghostrider]

Next step.

Military manuals. :biggrin:

 

[Smitty37]

Hmmmmm

Well Ed, 98.3726% of the time reading the instructions is a waste of time because you already know what they say. "Place nail A in hole B and smite mightly with hammer C"

But, there is that 1.6274% of the time when they have hidden in a footnote "make sure that you do not have your thumb on the head of nail A when smiting with hammer C"

 

[bitshird]

"Instructions WE Doan Need no Stinkin Instructions"!!

 

[MartinPens]

Ahhhhhh the male ego! It's a thing of beauty! : )

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[bensoelberg]

I know I am!!

Instructions are for sissys! Gimme the kit, get outta the way!! Pen coming up soon!!!

Well, a couple people have called me about the Cartridge "Click" pen. So, last night I took a kit, went home and made one. Knew there might be issues, so I printed the instructions and, as could be expected, left them on my desk at the office.

BUT, I have made THOUSANDS of pens, WHO needs INSTRUCTIONS!!!

Well, I ruined the "click" mechanism, constructing the pieces. So, this morning I READ the instructions. I now see what I did wrong--so to save others, the LAST components to be installed are the (Is the??) click plunger assembly. (Top of the pen)

If you do this kit by installing the click mechanism, then adding the center trim ring, it will destroy the click mechanism (YES, I AM SURE).

Our on-line instructions, provided by Berea ARE correct---if you read them. I will be changing the instructions on Exotics to show this information in RED BOLD, this weekend.

We will also send out warnings with this kit. When properly assembled, I have been told it is a nice click assembly--by the end of the weekend, I hope to confirm that!!!

BEWARE!!

Any other kits I should know about, where the instructions are IMPORTANT!!!!

"are the" is correct. Go with your gut instinct and you'll be right most of the time. (unless you are assembling a click...) :biggrin::wink::biggrin:

 

[DozerMite]

When I assemble ANY click pen... The finial/click end always goes on/in LAST. Sometimes it takes a bit of pressure to get the other components in, so if you put the click in first, it will break, or the chances are heightened.

 

[Smitty37]

yea

Next step.

Military manuals. :biggrin:

"Take your ditty bag in your left hand--take your process papers in your right hand....."

 

[Smitty37]

Nope

I know I am!!

Instructions are for sissys! Gimme the kit, get outta the way!! Pen coming up soon!!!

Well, a couple people have called me about the Cartridge "Click" pen. So, last night I took a kit, went home and made one. Knew there might be issues, so I printed the instructions and, as could be expected, left them on my desk at the office.

BUT, I have made THOUSANDS of pens, WHO needs INSTRUCTIONS!!!

Well, I ruined the "click" mechanism, constructing the pieces. So, this morning I READ the instructions. I now see what I did wrong--so to save others, the LAST components to be installed are the (Is the??) click plunger assembly. (Top of the pen)

If you do this kit by installing the click mechanism, then adding the center trim ring, it will destroy the click mechanism (YES, I AM SURE).

Our on-line instructions, provided by Berea ARE correct---if you read them. I will be changing the instructions on Exotics to show this information in RED BOLD, this weekend.

We will also send out warnings with this kit. When properly assembled, I have been told it is a nice click assembly--by the end of the weekend, I hope to confirm that!!!

BEWARE!!

Any other kits I should know about, where the instructions are IMPORTANT!!!!

"are the" is correct. Go with your gut instinct and you'll be right most of the time. (unless you are assembling a click...) :biggrin::wink::biggrin:

Maybe ---it might be more proper if it read. "..the last component to be installed is the click assembly" if it is installed as an assembly. If it is installed piece at a time then it should it should say "....components to be installed make up the click assembly" or something like that. In any case English is a messy language.

 

[witz1976]

Next step.

Military manuals. :biggrin:

Not sure if you mentioned this cause you know from experience or if you are joking, but Military Instructions SUCK!!!!

 

[ed4copies]

This is the first "click" I have made--in a decade or so. I will make the rest of them soon and make OUR instructions SCREAM.

IF it is in bold red, when assembling I sometimes take a peek (yeah, I know I'm getting old and mellow)

 

[el_d]

It takes a real man to admit he made a mistake, and an even bigger one to share what he learned with others.

And an even BIGGER man to laugh at them both while calling them SISSYS and not get his ACE beat.!

 

[Displaced Canadian]

I read the instructions and still had a very large oops. :redface:

 

[greenmtnguy]

Instructions are for sissies and people that want it done correctly the first time. Where is the fun in that? Humbug!

 

[jttheclockman]

Any other kits I should know about, where the instructions are IMPORTANT!!!!


I think it is a bad message to even suggest any kit does not need instructions to put together. If you want to be foolish and not read them and pay the price later go ahead. we probably all have done it. I may have done many of one type of kit but i always have the instructions there and try to lay out the parts before assembly. Yes I have still made mistakes but think they have been less if I did not do this.

I am sure we have tried to put things together without reading instructions but as we all know sometimes it is costly so my thoughts are all pen kits need instructions and need to be written clearly in large print with clear photos. If you want to chage something ED that is where to change, but then again not sure where your question was heading??? Maybe just was a guy VS women thing

I see you were making light of your own mistake now but within your post there is the sales pitch and thnus I made the suggestion I did.

 

[NewLondon88]

Real men don't NEED directions. :tongue:

 

[jskeen]

Next step.

Military manuals. :biggrin:

"Take your ditty bag in your left hand--take your process papers in your right hand....."

Now put them back down, now square them to the yellow line, now pick them back up. Repeat as necessary.

 

[LarryDNJR]

As my Dad says, "I don't need to read the DEstructions"

 

[ed4copies]

As my Dad says, "I don't need to read the DEstructions"

Unfortunately, that's what happened to the click mechanism, I DEstructed it!!

Made one today, followed the "assembly plans" and, lo and behold, it works, GREAT!!!

 

[ghostrider]

Next step.

Military manuals. :biggrin:

"Take your ditty bag in your left hand--take your process papers in your right hand....."

Now put them back down, now square them to the yellow line, now pick them back up. Repeat as necessary.

"You don't need to take your boots off. That's why your issued bell bottoms."

 

[ctubbs]

Instructions are just the other guy's idea of how to break it. i can do that just fine by myself, thank you.
Charles

 

[rsulli16]

Hi
I ruined a cartridge click assembling it too( it was a (penstate). Even reading the instructions AND watching the on line video. I still don't get it. The click assembly was 3 pieces, i don't think i got them in the right order as i recall.
perhaps you could expand???please use little words and type really, really really slow?
Thanks
sulli

 

[seamus7227]

measure once, cut twice.

My thoughts exactly Jeff!:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[ed4copies]

Hi
I ruined a cartridge click assembling it too( it was a (penstate). Even reading the instructions AND watching the on line video. I still don't get it. The click assembly was 3 pieces, i don't think i got them in the right order as i recall.
perhaps you could expand???please use little words and type really, really really slow?
Thanks
sulli

Sorry, I can only tell you about the ones I make and I don't make PSI kits.