:frown: To me the part I dread most about pen making is putting a price on it. Some pens you can start with a $2 pen kit, a scrap piece of wood, put on a wax finish, and make a nice looking pen in 20 minutes. You can price this pen at $10-!5 and make money. On the other hand, You could spend days defining your design, and another couple of days cutting, glueing, turning, and finishing the pen. The pen kit could run you $10-50. Making the blank, plus turning, and then doing a perfect finishing job. How do you price something like that? If your doing this for a friend or just a hobby there's not a problem. The smile upon giving, or the pride in workmanship is your reward. However, if you are going to try to make a living or add to your income, you have to account for time spent. If your just getting your cost plus a little out of your work, it's just a hobby that you enjoy doing. I least enjoy sanding! But the finish is only as good as the base it rests on!! When you take the time to properly prepare your blank, you will be proud of your finished pen. And that concludes the sermon of the day. Jim S