Cwalker935
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I know that the topic of postable or non postable has come up before, just wondering if opinions have changed. Any new thoughts?
Postable vs postable
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BSea
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I still like non postable. Although it seems like postable wins out in customer preference.
Brooks803
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Same here.
avbill
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Non postable has a clean line to it. Much more elegant looking. Where history has educated the client that all pen's need to be postable . The minds of the client will never change.
A person bought a non-postable fountain from another turner. She came back to the same art show one year later and saw me there. She knew I was not the pen turner but asked anyways Could I change the pen into a postable pen? I said yes, She's being my client now for three years.
With postable pen --you do not have to post the cap -- making it non-postable. You have the both worlds with one pen.
A person bought a non-postable fountain from another turner. She came back to the same art show one year later and saw me there. She knew I was not the pen turner but asked anyways Could I change the pen into a postable pen? I said yes, She's being my client now for three years.
With postable pen --you do not have to post the cap -- making it non-postable. You have the both worlds with one pen.
StuartCovey
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I prefer the look of postable over non-postable. But since theres no real differences in quality between them, it's really just a matter of opinion.
monophoto
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I'm a fountain pen user (for more than 40 years). I rarely post the cap, but I can understand that for some people, posting the cap helps prevent it from getting lost.
Ultimately its a matter of preference. Boxers versus briefs.
Ultimately its a matter of preference. Boxers versus briefs.
thewishman
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I have met lots of resistance is trying to sell non-postable pens. I don't even carry them now - I gave up.
Carl Fisher
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I don't like posting a pen when I write.
That said, 90% of the people who pick up one of our capped pens will immediately try to post the cap on the back and show frustration when they can't.
I've started making all of my Atrax pens postable for this reason. I'd rather let them have the option and not use it, than want it and lose a sale because it doesn't have it.
Even my custom (kitless) pens have a tapered body that allow posting the cap via press fit. Best of both worlds.
That said, 90% of the people who pick up one of our capped pens will immediately try to post the cap on the back and show frustration when they can't.
I've started making all of my Atrax pens postable for this reason. I'd rather let them have the option and not use it, than want it and lose a sale because it doesn't have it.
Even my custom (kitless) pens have a tapered body that allow posting the cap via press fit. Best of both worlds.
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GaryT45
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I've never made a non-postable 2 tube pen, my personal preference is a postable pen. So far, it has never come up as something that anyone wanted (going on 3 years turning pens now).
If the customer wants postable....sell him/her postable.
georgestanley032
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I've always like non-postable. There's nothing really wrong with any of the 2. I agree that it's only a matter of preference on whether which of the 2 is better.
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Chatham PenWorks
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Visual appeal - nonpostable
Functionality and sellability - postable
Functionality and sellability - postable
Visual appeal where? Side by side they can both look pretty much the same depending on the model.
Ok Leroy, please enlighten me....please can you tell me which pen kit model in either the postable or non-postable version looks the same and which model 'depends'.......I'm really lost on this one......????
( Yes, I'm rattling your cage a bit too....
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Chatham PenWorks
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I'm with skiprat. I'd love to know what model looks anywhere close to the same using both options.
Jr Gent 2 for one. Minor difference in the End Cap. If you believe that to be a major difference in looks, you and I just see things from a different perspective because I don't see it that way.:biggrin::biggrin:
Ok Leroy, please enlighten me....please can you tell me which pen kit model in either the postable or non-postable version looks the same and which model 'depends'.......I'm really lost on this one......????
( Yes, I'm rattling your cage a bit too....
See my reply to Skip....I think that everything except the end cap exactly the same translates to "pretty much the same".
panamag8or
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I think end caps make pens look tacky and unfinished. Take a look at the pens people actually pay good money for: Mont Blanc, Pilot, Parker... no end caps, they all have friction fit, and look so much better. I wish someone would offer a decent kit that looked sleek, rather than having what looks like an air valve cover on it. [/rant]
walshjp17
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A practical view of the postable v. non-postable discussion: A friend in sales asked me to make him a high-end roller ball he would use when presenting contracts to clients for signing. He wanted it non-postable because he said he lost too many pens to clients by handing over the entire pen (i.e., posted) for signing and then a conversation about wording ensued and - long story short - he forgot to get the pen back from the client.* He stated he would rather hold onto one part of the pen while the client used the other part to sign. That way he would not forget to get the pen back from the client.
I prefer non-postable, but as Smitty noted, the customer gets what the customer wants.
*This actually happened to me when I was a client of another salesman. It's how I ended up with my first Mont Blanc -- and yes, I did try to contact the salesman for over three months without success.
I prefer non-postable, but as Smitty noted, the customer gets what the customer wants.
*This actually happened to me when I was a client of another salesman. It's how I ended up with my first Mont Blanc -- and yes, I did try to contact the salesman for over three months without success.
people tend to not like making friction fit pens....to easy to overturn and end up with a cap that won't stay on posted or not. I would agree though that the end caps could be designed much better but that would make the barrels longer to keep the same overall length.... at least for Rollerballs....
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79spitfire
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I can take or leave postable/not postable pens. I have plenty of both. What drives me crazy is a pen that looks to be postable, but isn't. Those are the ones where I end up dropping the cap.
For the general public, 99% of commercial (mainstream) pens with caps are postable. I haven't had any luck selling any pens with caps (yet). I need to be more aggressive...
For the general public, 99% of commercial (mainstream) pens with caps are postable. I haven't had any luck selling any pens with caps (yet). I need to be more aggressive...
panamag8or
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Longer barrels would be fine with me. Some kits look funny, with so much metal, and a little piece of blank.
Most non postable have the same amount of metal showing as the postable version of the same kit....
Yeah Leroy, but it depends on the model....:wink:
I presume you're right Skip, but it just happens that all of the non postable pens in my collection have a fairly large metal end cap....including a few pretty expensive ones. Some of them might not even come is a postable version.