Lamination or Segment?

[Ron Mc]

I have a question for everyone.
What would you consider a lamination and a segment when regards to making a pen?

Here are my thoughts.
I feel like a segment would be a piece of wood that goes all the way threw the blank.
A lamination would be a piece of wood that is only on the surface of the blank.

 

[dfurlano]

Lamination: to make (as a windshield) by uniting superposed layers of one or more materials b : to unite (layers of material) by an adhesive or other means

Segment:a separate piece of something : BIT, FRAGMENT <chop the stalks into short segments> b : one of the constituent parts into which a body, entity, or quantity is divided or marked off by or as if by natural boundaries <all segments of the population agree>

 

[DCBluesman]

They are so often misused and confused that I just call them all glue-ups. [8D]

 

[Randy_]

For me, implied in the definition, would be the idea that all of the glue lines are parallel, or nearly so, in laminated blanks; but not for segmented pens. Generally speaking, I think most folks look at laminates as having very thin layers. I don't see any reason why a blank made up of layers that are as thick as they are wide and long should not be called a laminate. [?]

And I think Lou has it right is saying it doesn't really make a whole bunch of difference.....call'em what you like!!

 

[Randy_]

Originally posted by Ron Mc
<br />.....A lamination would be a piece of wood that is only on the surface of the blank....

That could also be an inlay.

I don't think you would consider something like Dymondwood to be a segmented blank, would you??

 

[Darley]

Originally posted by Ron Mc
<br />I have a question for everyone.
What would you consider a lamination and a segment when regards to making a pen?

Here are my thoughts.
I feel like a segment would be a piece of wood that goes all the way threw the blank.
A lamination would be a piece of wood that is only on the surface of the blank.

Ron for me lamination is pieces of wood glued together ' like plywood ', segment is as it's say, take a pie and cut in portion you will have segments ( you use angle ), in an other hand when you did your morning after you cut the segments ( in angle I think 11.5 degree ) then you glued them up to the tube and make your pen barrel, IMHO you laminate your pen . but like Lou say it's very arguable.

To put every one out off misery we should call this " LAMISEG " [][]

 

[ctEaglesc]

I agree with Randy.
When I make laminated blanks The strips are normally thcknessed to get a uniform appearance.The analogy to plywood is a very good one,it best describes how I view it.
ALso a laminated blank is "stronger" as opposed to a "Segment" where a "break" is more likely to oocur at the joint especiall if it is glued end grain to end grain.
A When I make a spiral segment it starts out as a laminted glue up and turns into a "Spiral segment"

 

[lwalden]

gee, I've just always considered lengthwise glueups (rips, or with the grain) to be laminations, and crosscut glueups to be segmented.........

 

[redfishsc]

With all this being said, I wonder how many angels will fit on the head of a pin?


BTW I consider this a laminated blank. Bloodwood, ash, maple, cherry, and sapele

 

[ctEaglesc]

Originally posted by Randy_
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Originally posted by Ron Mc
<br />.....A lamination would be a piece of wood that is only on the surface of the blank....

That could also be an inlay.

I don't think you would consider something like Dymondwood to be a segmented blank, would you??

Nor would the top layer of Dyamond wood be an inlay

 

[Jerryconn]

My 2 cents worth; a laminate is two pieces glued long grain to long grain and a segment anything glued at some angle to the long grain.

 

[bob393]

Originally posted by DCBluesman
<br />They are so often misused and confused that I just call them all glue-ups. [8D]

Now I'm confused

 

[Ron Mc]

Thanks for all of the great answers! I believe that we are all in agreement that.....[)]

 

[ctEaglesc]

ONe things for sure, It is difficult to make a laminated pen with a cross cut miter saw.