How do you drill a round blank on a drill press

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RyanNJ

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I have been clamping the blank to my jig and clamping that clamp to hold the blank but i have experienced the blank catching on the bit and melting/tearing the pads on my clamps is there a better way?
 
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I was lucky a buddy of mine built me a wooden vise using v blocks. I have drilled round stock easily with this. I never have had an issue with the blank riding up the bit using this. I also see guys that use a wood workers vise cut V notches and use that. Holds much better imo. Before I had a drill press vise that was metal and made my narrower V blocks. Hope that gives you some ideas.

Obviously there are drill press vises for pens starting at $50 but there are cheaper methods which seem to work just as good for me.
 
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todd can you post a pic of your vise, mine is very crude and i would like to improve on it

Ryan I sure can. I will try to remember to take a picture tonight and post it. It's a pretty simple design none the less. Will be a couple hours before I can post it.
 

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Ryan, do you have a bowl chuck? if so, you could always clamp your round blank in the chuck and use a drill chuck to drill with. You would have a much truer hole drilling it on the lathe. Not sure if this helps, just my .02
 

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I used a parallel wood clamp I got from HF with a small notch cut into both side. May be the same thing Todds talking about. The wood clamp was like 5 buck but worked pretty good.
 

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Ok here are the pictures. My wife took them, nuff said lol. Should be able to get the idea though.

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I used a parallel wood clamp I got from HF with a small notch cut into both side. May be the same thing Todds talking about. The wood clamp was like 5 buck but worked pretty good.


Yep, that's what I am talking about too.
 

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Hi Ryan

You should be able to get on of these in the US...!

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Ryan, this is what they are talking about. Just cut a V groove in the fornt portion of the jaw then clamp the hand screw to the drill press table and then your blank in the hand screw jaws between the V groove.

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I used my bandsaw didnt need it to be perfect, in fact it wasnt. I just marked a "v" on both side across from each other and went at it. Glued a part of an old tire tube for better grip and it held everything I needed.
 

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I have been clamping the blank to my jig and clamping that clamp to hold the blank but i have experienced the blank catching on the bit and melting/tearing the pads on my clamps is there a better way?

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Ryan; You may need to sharpen your drill bit. A piece of 80 grit sandpaper wrapped around the blank with the sandpaper against the blank will improve the grip of whatever you use to hold the blank.
 

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At $100 for that vise you could buy a collet chuck and drill chuck and drill on the lathe . It's much more accurate and the collet chuck is useful for other things , like holding blanks for facing (eliminates the need for a barrel trimmer) and any kind of modified kit work , like closed ended pens and is required if you ever want to do any kitless work . George (texatdurango) has a tutorial about drilling on the lathe , I think it might be in the library or it is in the Advanced penmaking forum . I will look for it and post a link .
 
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At $100 for that vise you could buy a collet chuck and drill chuck and drill on the lathe . It's much more accurate and the collet chuck is useful for other things , like holding blanks for facing (eliminates the need for a barrel trimmer) and any kind of modified kit work , like closed ended pens and is required if you ever want to do any kitless work . George (texatdurango) has a tutorial about drilling on the lathe , I think it might be in the library or it is in the Advanced penmaking forum . I will look for it and post a link .


Butch I agree on this point. If your going to spend the money anyhow, get the other stuff to do it on the lathe. As I have said in the past, had I known then what I know now I wouldn't have bought the dp. But hey it works good enough for me for now. Maybe some day I will have the collet etc.
 

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You will need a collet chuck to fit the headstock of your lathe and a drill chuck to fit your tailstock . If you use 3/4" round stock you can just chuck them up but if you use square stock you will need somekind of center for your headstock and your live center for the tailstock .
 

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What do i need to drill on the lathe?


Ideally, a collet chuck and a jacobs drill chuck with a MT taper to match your tailstock.

I don't have a collet chuck, I have a scroll chuck (a couple in fact). Super-precision takes more effort. But even without that effort the hole is more accurate, the cut cleaner, and my tailstock has way less runout than my drill press.

I got the drill chuck for the tailstock at Harbor Freight. $6 or so. It and the scroll chuck can be used for other things too. The collet chuck can too. And you'd still be under the $100 for the other stuff.
 

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PSI's Barracuda line of scroll chucks is decent. But you can go to your local Woodcraft or Rockler for others.

IIRC PennState sells decent collet chucks, but I'll let Butch answer for those.
 

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Ryan , here is the tutorial for drilling on the lathe http://content.penturners.org/articles/2009/lathedrilling.pdf

Just as a suggestion , and I don't want to catch any flack from anyone for saying this , You really should go through the Library and check out the articles there . There is a tremendous amount of information there that you might find useful . Also learn how to use the search feature that the forum has . Almost any question you might ever have has already been asked several times and the information could be a valuable reference .
 

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Ryan , here is the tutorial for drilling on the lathe http://content.penturners.org/articles/2009/lathedrilling.pdf

Just as a suggestion , and I don't want to catch any flack from anyone for saying this , You really should go through the Library and check out the articles there . There is a tremendous amount of information there that you might find useful . Also learn how to use the search feature that the forum has . Almost any question you might ever have has already been asked several times and the information could be a valuable reference .
Thanks for the tip... the worst part is i read that article last week (must have been finals that got to me this week)
 

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There are several vendors that sell collet chucks and scroll chucks , PSI , CSUSA and Woodcraft are the top three .
Collet chucks are the most accurate type of chuck but are really only useful for pens . Scroll chucks are useful for turning bowls and boxes and other things including pens but are much more expensive then collet chucks and not quite as accurate . Which is better is something you will have to decide based on what you are going to do with it . I have both and use them quite often but for doing pens I only use the collet chuck . The PSI collet chuck is the most cost effective of the collet chucks and is the one I have . It comes with the chuck body and 5 collets in a useful range of sizes , 2 tommy bars for tightening the chuck when extra grip is needed but the chuck body is knurled so you can tighten it by hand most of the time . It also comes in a fitted case so you can keep it together and not have to go looking for your collets or tommy bars when you need them . You can buy it from PSI or some of their resellers for around $90 or if you wait for a sale you can sometimes get it on Amazon for around $75 w/free shipping .
 
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