Daniel
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I have found a new misson! pause for those that know me to groan.
I have set myself on making one of those 50 cal BMG pens. problem is nothing less than authentic look will do. so I gotta use the bullet and not a wood or pen kit finial.
In searching for the recommended M17 tracer bullet, I have discovered there are over 40 different bullets available for the 50 cal BMG casing. and tracers are not the easiest to find. I ahve also seen pens made from other bullets such as the Hornady AMAX which is a high quality target round used in match shooting. A very pretty bullet with a price to match.
due to the material in the tracer bullet there are both extra costs in getting them shipped, as well as lots of legel restrictions on where they can be shipped. als o it woudl be very nice to be able to avoid the need to handle hazardous material in processing the bullets into pen tips if possible.
one other attractive choice for the bullet woudl be the ball. this is a bullet that has not materal added to it like the incendiary stuf the tracer has. it is not shipped as a hazardous material, and is listed as being used against personal or vehicals. a lot of these bullets are listed as "Armour Piercing" which translates to me as a real pain or impossible to drill.
So do all of you with your collective knowledge of other things know of any other bullet for the 50 cal BMG casing that can be emptied and drilled to make this pen?
Other issues. from what I can tell even the bullets fall under the laws of selling firearms. I would have to be a licensed firearms dealer in order to mail a bullet to anyone else. (see the thread in group buys) I am thinking that if I remove the lead core from the bullet that law woudl no longer apply. it is now a bullet jacket. but I am not sure. if that would not be good enough does anyone know if drilling the tip would then make it legally mailable. it would then be a destroyed bullet jacket and could even be called a pen nib.
from what I found the law tends to consider it a bullet even if you take the pieces of it apart, as long as those pieces could be put back.
Example: I can melt the lead core out of it, mail it to you, but you could easily put lead back in it. restoring it back to being a bullet.
As is these bullets cannot be mailed to NY, CA, parts of FLorida, Hawaii, and a few other states. If they are tracers the list gets even longer. I still; have a long list of questions to get answered but this is all I will put up for now.
thanks for any help, I know this whole question is way off the beaten track, even your thoughts are welcome, but I can bet you if it is only a thought I have probably already had it myself, like just shelving this. but that is not like me. the longer it takes the more determined I get to make it happen. sort of starts feeling like revenge after a while.
I have set myself on making one of those 50 cal BMG pens. problem is nothing less than authentic look will do. so I gotta use the bullet and not a wood or pen kit finial.
In searching for the recommended M17 tracer bullet, I have discovered there are over 40 different bullets available for the 50 cal BMG casing. and tracers are not the easiest to find. I ahve also seen pens made from other bullets such as the Hornady AMAX which is a high quality target round used in match shooting. A very pretty bullet with a price to match.
due to the material in the tracer bullet there are both extra costs in getting them shipped, as well as lots of legel restrictions on where they can be shipped. als o it woudl be very nice to be able to avoid the need to handle hazardous material in processing the bullets into pen tips if possible.
one other attractive choice for the bullet woudl be the ball. this is a bullet that has not materal added to it like the incendiary stuf the tracer has. it is not shipped as a hazardous material, and is listed as being used against personal or vehicals. a lot of these bullets are listed as "Armour Piercing" which translates to me as a real pain or impossible to drill.
So do all of you with your collective knowledge of other things know of any other bullet for the 50 cal BMG casing that can be emptied and drilled to make this pen?
Other issues. from what I can tell even the bullets fall under the laws of selling firearms. I would have to be a licensed firearms dealer in order to mail a bullet to anyone else. (see the thread in group buys) I am thinking that if I remove the lead core from the bullet that law woudl no longer apply. it is now a bullet jacket. but I am not sure. if that would not be good enough does anyone know if drilling the tip would then make it legally mailable. it would then be a destroyed bullet jacket and could even be called a pen nib.
from what I found the law tends to consider it a bullet even if you take the pieces of it apart, as long as those pieces could be put back.
Example: I can melt the lead core out of it, mail it to you, but you could easily put lead back in it. restoring it back to being a bullet.
As is these bullets cannot be mailed to NY, CA, parts of FLorida, Hawaii, and a few other states. If they are tracers the list gets even longer. I still; have a long list of questions to get answered but this is all I will put up for now.
thanks for any help, I know this whole question is way off the beaten track, even your thoughts are welcome, but I can bet you if it is only a thought I have probably already had it myself, like just shelving this. but that is not like me. the longer it takes the more determined I get to make it happen. sort of starts feeling like revenge after a while.
