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Old 07-13-2017, 06:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Hi again Kevin.

All your comments are valid and will serve you well as you develop your own designs that you are satisfied with.

Another method to consider when you want very precise matching end segments is to glue in your primary center blank, then part off the ends while on the lathe, and using calipers carefully match the dimensions.

Then glue on whatever end caps you wish, and finish as usual.


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Thanks again everyone. Mark, thanks for the excellent suggestion. I will look into trying that approach. Nice examples of not-too-busy segmented pens! Beautiful.
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I have seen FAR BUSIER designs get big money at the D.C. pen show. Those do not appeal to me, but these (yours) are not busy at all and look quite nice.
I like'm!

I think ya done good... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Make the pens as technically sound as you can, SOMEONE will appreciate the design... guaranteed!

I had a co-worker go crazy over the ugliest pen I ever produced. I hated it so much I gave it to her. She would have given me a good price, but I was happy to have it gone!

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Excellent Segmenting Kevin.
I don't think that it is too Busy, but more like the Sizes of some of the Sections, may have worked better if they were Smaller and the Major Materials, made a little Larger.
I suppose what I am saying, is that some materials could have been sized as Thick Veneers, rather than "Chunks" of Wood, and would not have create a Busy Reaction.

Your Segmenting is Terrific, Excellent Fit and Finish.
Yes when you use different materials, and Differing Cuts, you will get differences in the amount of material removal, and some times colour transferring, so you need to be conscious of this when Segmenting and also Turning.

An Excellent Lesson, and from what you mentioned, Well Learned.
Congratulations, and thank you for Sharing, I look forward to seeing more of your Work.
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Brian, thank you for the excellent feedback. I understand exactly what you mean about using thinner segments, and completely agree. I also am more aware about material transfer from darker segments to lighter, and need to work to minimize that.

Thanks again!
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For me segmenting a pen is a creative endeavor... I let the design percolate awhile then try my best to make it a tolerable reality. In the end I hope it emerges as something I like. Maybe other people will like it or maybe not...I find your design and implementation attractive. If you think it too busy you might try just segmenting the cap next time, letting the wood speak for itself on the barrel. Trust your creative instincts... let it be a piece of you... that you might give to someone, perhaps market to others, keep in your pocket, or on a stand in your home. The pen is not too busy, it's as busy as it has to be for it to reflect your concept of "great!"


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It is hard to finish woods with different densities and also hard to sand them. I always found that non porous woods mix well but porous woods don't mix well with solid woods. I don't use CA for a finish so that is why I like non porous woods.
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If you think it too busy you might try just segmenting the cap next time, letting the wood speak for itself on the barrel.
GWatson: Brilliant suggestion! I happened to have an Olympian Elite 2 Pen made of solid Bubinga, so swapping the caps between the 2 pens sort of gets at what you are suggesting. I wished I had thought of that!

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Also, I had some extra segmented blank material left over, so I made an Oxford Rollerball with a single shaft. It's less busy.
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I think that's the end of my lessons learned for this topic. Thanks again everyone for the excellent feedback!
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YES!!!!! I like them!


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Default It all depends on one thing....

Endless possibilities.

But in all seriousness, I think it really depends on what you want to highlight.

If you want a blank that has lots going on, choose a kit that's very plain.

If you want to show off the kit keep the blanks simple.

That said, I think the work you did is gorgeous even if the pen is a little busy.

My personal carry is similar in design with a few subtle changes.


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Same basic idea with a few differences. Blank is made from only 2 species - Maple Lace Burl and Ebony with a Credit Card dividing line. Had I added another species next to the Ebony I think I would have run into the same issue you did.

Now, when I build my next one I will only do something special to the cap and leave the body one wood. I also think mine is a little busy with the cap and the body matching but a lot of people really like what I did.

So I guess it really comes down to two things.

Personal preference and endless possibilities.
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